Thanks! On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:19 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck <[email protected]> wrote: > Just send me the code changes. > > Thomas > > > > > K Post <[email protected]> > 08.11.2009 20:17 > Bitte antworten an > ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> > > > An > ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> > Kopie > > Thema > Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: fixes and changes in > 2.0.1_RC0.5.16 > > > > > > > OK, you're just taking me too literally. I was saying "us dummies" > trying (unsuccessful) to be funny by jabbing myself in the gut. > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:48 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck > <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there. >> >> I will never do any think for dummies - just give the child an other > name! >> >> Thomas >> >> >> >> >> K Post <[email protected]> >> 08.11.2009 19:34 >> Bitte antworten an >> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> >> >> >> An >> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> >> Kopie >> >> Thema >> Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Re: fixes and changes in 2.0.1_RC0.5.16 >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there. >>>No - this is a professional version ! >> >> I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but how are we supposed >> to have known, short of looking at the code, what that norm number >> means? >> >> I don't mean to argue, just discuss. I'll write the code and provide >> it here, if you don't want to use it, that's fine (always) - no hard >> feelings. >> >> You seem to agree with me at least in part - if there's a problem with >> the norm, you already give a great pointer like this: >> >> Corpus norm: 0.1074 >> Corpus norm should be between 0.6 and 1.4 >> >> Recommendation: You need more spam messages in the corpus. >> >> I'm just saying that if it is 0.67 that we should have >> corpus norm: 0.6700 (sightly ham heavy) >> >> You're already putting things in each and every rebuild log like: >> >> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: > Enabled >> **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!** >> >> I'm not sure why you'd feel that this 2 line reminder is needed in >> every log, but a good reminder of what the corpus norm number means >> (which is very important IMHO) isn't a good idea. >> >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Thomas Eckardt/eck >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there. >>> >>> No - this is a professional version ! >>> >>> Thomas >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> K Post <[email protected]> >>> 08.11.2009 16:16 >>> Bitte antworten an >>> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> An >>> ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]> >>> Kopie >>> >>> Thema >>> Re: [Assp-test] fixes and changes in 2.0.1_RC0.5.16 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> First, holy cow! Thanks for all of those changes in 2.0.1 rc 0.5.16. >>> >>> 1) Whitelisting emails are now working. That's huge. >>> >>> 2) I found the issue with the embedded analyze info in the ham/spam >>> reports. If "Spam and Ham Reports will trigger an additional Analyze >>> Report (DoAdditionalAnalyze)" is set to send a report, doesn't matter >>> to whom, then a report is generated AND in the ham/spam reply there's >>> an analysis too. This is true in 0.5.16. >>> >>> Like this: >>> >>> Thank you for your not-spam report. >>> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future. >>> >>> >>> Subject: The message subject >>> Feature Matching: >>> >>> Whitelist: '[email protected]' >>> >>> Bayesian Analysis: >>> Bad Words:Bad Prob Good >>> Words:Good Prob >>> >>> Totals: >>> >>> >>> Spam/Ham Probabilities: >>> >>> >>> Spam Probability: >>> probability 0.5000 >>> >>> >>> If I set DoAdditionalAnalyze to none, then this report doesn't appear >>> in the reply. I want a report to go to the sender and an analyze to >>> me, but i don't want the analyze in the user reply. >>> >>> >>> 3) On occasion, it appears that there are duplicate whitelist status >>> lines like this: >>> >>> [email protected] is not on Whitelist >>> [email protected] is not on Whitelist >>> >>> In this example original email that address was the to and reply-to. >>> >>> >>> 4) While we're on this topic, I think it would be better if in the >>> ham/spam report replies if we changed it so the original subject >>> appears in parentethis. So instead of >>> Spam Report Received Original Subject >>> it would be >>> Spam Report Received (Original Subject) >>> >>> It's just easier to read that way. "Spam Report Received" is what we >>> have the subject configured as fyi. >>> >>> >>> 5) Last, with Outlook 2007, with the report emails (and other emails >>> from ASSP, like rebuild reports), I'm getting "Extra line breaks in >>> this message were removed." In #3 above, those two whitelist report >>> lines were actually on the same line. The message that we put for >>> not-spam reports: >>> >>> Thank you for your not-spam report. >>> Your report will help ASSP better detect spam messages in the future. >>> >>> which is on 2 lines in the editor (lines 2 and 3, with 1 being the >>> subject), shows as one line. >>> >>> In the rebuild reports most lines start on their own line, but those >>> that are supposed printed on 2 lines like >>> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: >> Enabled >>> **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the corpus!** >>> >>> Which appears on 2 lines in the admin editor, but as >>> >>> Nov-08-09 08:15:00 Do Not Collect Messages with RedListed address: >>> Enabled **Messages with RedListed addresses will be removed from the >>> corpus!** >>> >>> in outlook 2007. >>> >>> >>> (ok, one more thing, unrelated) in the rebuild log, it would be nice >>> when printing the corpus norm, if we indicated that, 1 is perfect, >>> less indicates that the corpus is ham heavy, more indicates that the >>> corpus is spam heavy. between .6 and 1.4 is an acceptable range. How >>> about doing something like: >>> >>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm: 1.1248 (slightly spam heavy) >>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm: 0.9000 (slightly ham heavy) >>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm: 0.0548 (very ham heavy) - and >>> print >>> the existing warning >>> Nov-08-09 08:47:17 Corpus norm: 1.9548 (very spam heavy) - > and >>> print >>> the existing warning >>> >>> I may actually have the ham/spam ratio backwards, which emphasises my >>> point. Let's make it more clear for us dummies out there. >>> >>> Thanks for keeping these revisions coming out so frequently and for >>> implementing so many of my suggestions. ASSP just keeps getting >>> better and better. >>> >>> >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports 2008 >>> 30-Day >>> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - and >> focus >>> on >>> what you do best, core application coding. 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