Dear ASSP community Please allow me to bring also another point of view to this discussion. Many of us spend a lot of time to report a problem in detail or provide a piece of code either over this list or directly to the developers. But how does it looks like with the companies using ASSP and can save a lot of money or even generate indirectly money with this great product? To my mind they also have an interest to get ASSP developed further and get the great support the developers provide nearly around the clock.
I know from several Open Source projects including ASSP that the companies are rarely or never donate some money to show their appreciation and respect to the developers. It doesn't depend on the amount of money a company can afford but it is more a basic attitude. Maybe the guns are smoking now and I have to find a save place but what I would like to show is that it doesn't hurt for a company to spend some dollars from time to time for a great product they rely on in the daily business. In my opinion the companies should also be more in charge to support the Open Source Projects in general and in this special case ASSP. So just asking for an ASSP donation in the company you work for doesn't hurt but could help to show the developers that their work is also appreciated by the companies using ASSP or Open Source in general. best regards Marco -----Original Message----- From: Маллиндайн Стивен (Steve Mallindine) [mailto:st...@sc.ru.ru] Sent: Samstag, 28. November 2009 06:42 To: ASSP development mailing list Subject: Re: [Assp-test] used V 2.0.1 versions Ken, I think you missed a vital point, WE ARE the testers... Thomas and Fritz are the programmers... They can't be expected to test ASSP in every conceivable configuration... That's what we're here for... We're also here to provide feedback and suggestions... Most are accepted, some are rejected... IMHO, it's those suggestions which are rejected which causes the programmers to get uptight.... because not everyone accepts the reason for rejection, and keeps annoying the programmers to the point that they simply get pissed off. Steve Sent from my iPhone On 28.11.2009, at 5:14, "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > No guns here, I only use swords. Micro$oft = evil. Oh wait, I'm > running win32 system. Never mind. :) > > Seriously though, I'm all for discussion and won't ever take > offense... I'd rather see Thomas only implement a simple nag screen > than waste his time coding all of these options. > > The MS approach definitely works, In theory at least, their updates > are (also theoretically) tested by a whole team of people before they > go out and on all sorts of configurations and hardware. ASSP would > only have Thomas and maybe Fritz to test on whatever configs they > have. What if they miss something? > > I just can't afford for assp to crash when I'm not around. > Autoupdates are just asking for trouble IMHO. > > FYI, I just put: > new\sassp\sversion.*is\savailable\sfor\sdownload\sat\ssourceforge > in my notifyRE. Got my first notification via email today when 0.6.4 > came out. > > I'd love to get a changelog emailed - and I think that would help to > incentivize admins to upgrade. Still that's extra coding for Thomas. > > > > On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:42 AM, GrayHat <gray...@gmx.net> wrote: >> >>> No guns here ;-) >> >> Well, ok... I had to write that, some folks start GROWLING >> when they hear (or read, in this case) "Microsoft" <grin> >> >>> Good point doing it with similar options as provided by Microsoft. >> >> Yeah, I think it may be reasonable; and a good default >> may be "download, don't install, notify" (with notification >> repeated at every "rebuildspamdb" btw - so lazy-assed >> admins won't forget about it :D) >> >> >> --- >> --- >> --- >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> Let Crystal Reports handle the reporting - Free Crystal Reports >> 2008 30-Day >> trial. Simplify your report design, integration and deployment - >> and focus on >> what you do best, core application coding. 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