ASSP acts transparent in the greeting - what you see comes from your MTA.

Paul download and try 2.0.2_3.3.01 and set 'etValencePB' to zero.

Thomas




Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
An:     ASSP development mailing list <[email protected]>
Datum:  03.10.2011 14:09
Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP Version 2




I take it other fokes can reproduce this problem I am seeing?

If you definately think its a problem with TB will you raise a ticket 
with Mozilla?  As I am kinda stuck with my TB clients using ASSP since I 
have updated to version 2.

Thanks again

Paul

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:50:03 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1
>>> Misbehaved SMTP session (EarlyTalker)
>
> What is assp doing?
> ASSP analyzes the SMTP command handshake (sequence of command and 
> reply)
> of the client and server.
> Every client and server has to follow the SMTP RFC's.
>
> An valid SMTP session start looks as follows:
>
> 1. client connects to the server over TCP
> 2. server sends '220 welcome or any other text'
> it is also possible to send more than one line in the server greeting 
> -
> for example:
> 220-welcome to me
> 220-please follow the RFC
> 220 mail server is now ready
>
> notice the '220-' and '220 ' - every client has to wait until he 
> receives
> the line '220 ' (without the '-')
>
> If the client sends any command (the first has to be HELO or EHLO) 
> before
> he received the '220 ....' greeting, this is a misbehave in SMTP and 
> this
> is penalized by assp.
> Currently all sessions with this misbehave are dropped immediatly.
>
> My idea was, to allow such a misbehave for all outgoing mails and
> 'accepAllMail' IP's - but I'm not sure if this idea is a good one. 
> Because
> if a local PC gets highjacked by a bot - this check could help to ban 
> it.
>
> I'll revert my currently done code changes. ASSP should not allow any 
> SMTP
> misbehave - how ever, this check could be disabled in the next 
> release by
> setting 'etValencePB' to zero.
>
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list 
> <[email protected]>
> Datum:  03.10.2011 03:33
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Re: Thunderbird SSL/TLS with 
> ASSP
> Version 2
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Thomas
>
> What I don't understand is this is Thunderbird 7.0.1 we are talking
> about not some unknown mail client.  Surely its unlikely that the 
> client
> is the problem is it???
>
> My friend is using Thunderbird (although I don't know what version at
> this stage) and he doesn't appear to have this problem with ASSP 
> Version
> 2 which is why I question is it something to do with my setup.
>
> Thanks
>
> Paul
>
> On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 18:51:03 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>>that ASSP Version 2 has this issue
>>
>> This is not an ASSP issue - your client is doing bad SMTP.
>>
>>>when is the next release planned
>>
>> possibly tomorrow
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
>> An:     ASSP development mailing list
>> <[email protected]>
>> Datum:  02.10.2011 13:43
>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP 
>> Version
>> 2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Thomas
>>
>> I kinda find it hard to believe that ASSP Version 2 has this issue, 
>> I
>> wondered if it was something more to do with my setup.  There must 
>> be
>> lots of peeps out there that use Thunderbird.  My next question is
>> when
>> is the next release planned as I would really like to get my
>> Thunderbird
>> clients working again without having to switch off SSL?
>>
>> Thanks for your quick reply and all you do for the ASSP project.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:21:06 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>> Your client '10.1.10.149' is talking before the MTA has sent the
>>> '220
>>> ...'
>>> greeting - this is a SMTP misbehave.
>>> The next release will ignore this mistake, if the mail is outgoing
>>> or
>>> the
>>> sending IP matches accepAllMail.
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
>>> An:     <[email protected]>
>>> Datum:  02.10.2011 03:09
>>> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP Version 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Guys
>>>
>>> I have just switched from ASSP Version 1 to ASSP Version 2 and 
>>> can't
>>> get my Thunderbird (Mac or PC) clients to authenticate over 
>>> SSL/TLS.
>>>
>>> The error I see is
>>>
>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] Connected: 10.1.10.149:49514 >
>>> 70.88.29.81:465 > 70.88.29.81:45014 > 70.88.29.81:125 , 7-16
>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 Message-Score: added 25
>>> for
>>> EarlyTalker, total score for this message is now 25
>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1
>>> Misbehaved SMTP session (EarlyTalker)
>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] Disconnected: 10.1.10.149 - command
>>> list
>>> was 'n/a' - used 1 SocketCalls
>>>
>>> I have QMail as the MTA behind ASSP if that is a clue and my 
>>> android
>>> phone authenticates over SSL/TLS no problem.
>>>
>>> It all worked fine over ASSP Version 1 except for the known odd SSL
>>> timeout error with attachments.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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