Ah I think that perhaps that is the trick that its likely my patched 
QMAIL rather than Thunderbird.

I will download the new version tonight as I am currently at work and 
let you know.

Thanks again for quick replies.

Paul

On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 14:42:32 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
> ASSP acts transparent in the greeting - what you see comes from your 
> MTA.
>
> Paul download and try 2.0.2_3.3.01 and set 'etValencePB' to zero.
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list 
> <[email protected]>
> Datum:  03.10.2011 14:09
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP Version 
> 2
>
>
>
>
> I take it other fokes can reproduce this problem I am seeing?
>
> If you definately think its a problem with TB will you raise a ticket
> with Mozilla?  As I am kinda stuck with my TB clients using ASSP 
> since I
> have updated to version 2.
>
> Thanks again
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, 3 Oct 2011 11:50:03 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1
>>>> Misbehaved SMTP session (EarlyTalker)
>>
>> What is assp doing?
>> ASSP analyzes the SMTP command handshake (sequence of command and
>> reply)
>> of the client and server.
>> Every client and server has to follow the SMTP RFC's.
>>
>> An valid SMTP session start looks as follows:
>>
>> 1. client connects to the server over TCP
>> 2. server sends '220 welcome or any other text'
>> it is also possible to send more than one line in the server 
>> greeting
>> -
>> for example:
>> 220-welcome to me
>> 220-please follow the RFC
>> 220 mail server is now ready
>>
>> notice the '220-' and '220 ' - every client has to wait until he
>> receives
>> the line '220 ' (without the '-')
>>
>> If the client sends any command (the first has to be HELO or EHLO)
>> before
>> he received the '220 ....' greeting, this is a misbehave in SMTP and
>> this
>> is penalized by assp.
>> Currently all sessions with this misbehave are dropped immediatly.
>>
>> My idea was, to allow such a misbehave for all outgoing mails and
>> 'accepAllMail' IP's - but I'm not sure if this idea is a good one.
>> Because
>> if a local PC gets highjacked by a bot - this check could help to 
>> ban
>> it.
>>
>> I'll revert my currently done code changes. ASSP should not allow 
>> any
>> SMTP
>> misbehave - how ever, this check could be disabled in the next
>> release by
>> setting 'etValencePB' to zero.
>>
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
>> An:     ASSP development mailing list
>> <[email protected]>
>> Datum:  03.10.2011 03:33
>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Antwort: Re: Thunderbird SSL/TLS 
>> with
>> ASSP
>> Version 2
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Thomas
>>
>> What I don't understand is this is Thunderbird 7.0.1 we are talking
>> about not some unknown mail client.  Surely its unlikely that the
>> client
>> is the problem is it???
>>
>> My friend is using Thunderbird (although I don't know what version 
>> at
>> this stage) and he doesn't appear to have this problem with ASSP
>> Version
>> 2 which is why I question is it something to do with my setup.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 18:51:03 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>>>that ASSP Version 2 has this issue
>>>
>>> This is not an ASSP issue - your client is doing bad SMTP.
>>>
>>>>when is the next release planned
>>>
>>> possibly tomorrow
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
>>> An:     ASSP development mailing list
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Datum:  02.10.2011 13:43
>>> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP
>>> Version
>>> 2
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Thomas
>>>
>>> I kinda find it hard to believe that ASSP Version 2 has this issue,
>>> I
>>> wondered if it was something more to do with my setup.  There must
>>> be
>>> lots of peeps out there that use Thunderbird.  My next question is
>>> when
>>> is the next release planned as I would really like to get my
>>> Thunderbird
>>> clients working again without having to switch off SSL?
>>>
>>> Thanks for your quick reply and all you do for the ASSP project.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> On Sun, 2 Oct 2011 11:21:06 +0200, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>>>> Your client '10.1.10.149' is talking before the MTA has sent the
>>>> '220
>>>> ...'
>>>> greeting - this is a SMTP misbehave.
>>>> The next release will ignore this mistake, if the mail is outgoing
>>>> or
>>>> the
>>>> sending IP matches accepAllMail.
>>>>
>>>> Thomas
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Von:    Paul Farrow <[email protected]>
>>>> An:     <[email protected]>
>>>> Datum:  02.10.2011 03:09
>>>> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Thunderbird SSL/TLS with ASSP Version 
>>>> 2
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guys
>>>>
>>>> I have just switched from ASSP Version 1 to ASSP Version 2 and
>>>> can't
>>>> get my Thunderbird (Mac or PC) clients to authenticate over
>>>> SSL/TLS.
>>>>
>>>> The error I see is
>>>>
>>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] Connected: 10.1.10.149:49514 >
>>>> 70.88.29.81:465 > 70.88.29.81:45014 > 70.88.29.81:125 , 7-16
>>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 Message-Score: added 25
>>>> for
>>>> EarlyTalker, total score for this message is now 25
>>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] 10.1.10.149 [SMTP Error] 554 5.7.1
>>>> Misbehaved SMTP session (EarlyTalker)
>>>> Oct-01-11 20:58:06 [Worker_1] Disconnected: 10.1.10.149 - command
>>>> list
>>>> was 'n/a' - used 1 SocketCalls
>>>>
>>>> I have QMail as the MTA behind ASSP if that is a clue and my
>>>> android
>>>> phone authenticates over SSL/TLS no problem.
>>>>
>>>> It all worked fine over ASSP Version 1 except for the known odd 
>>>> SSL
>>>> timeout error with attachments.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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