Thomas,

I am not sure whether the blow is a good idea or not, but I would point 
out that one can maintain their own IP black list. I certainly do.

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On 1/6/2012 11:31 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
> Tom,
>
> OK - assume we've resolved all the IP's for all detected hostnames in
> URIBL - this could be a hundred IP's for a single hostname!
> Who do you want to ask, if these IP's are good or bad? The URIBL providers
> ? They already know the hostname and we've already ask them about .
> Asking a RBL provider would be bad, because they only know bad SMTP hosts.
> Also our block/black lists are only SMTP related - not HTTP/FTP...
>
>> These are what I want the capability to detect no matter what the
> host/domain name is on the URL.
>
> Where do you want to get those IP lists from?
>
> Thomas
>
>
> Von:    TR Shaw<ts...@oitc.com>
> An:     ASSP development mailing list<assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:  06.01.2012 14:51
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] Antwort:  Feature request
>
>
>
>
> Thomas,
>
> They are not (or at least not as in how I was asking for).  To be
> explicit, I was asking for another option in the URBL processing areas to
> for the following:
>
> Extract all url's from the body of the email
> Extract hosts from the url's
> Convert host to DNS query of URBLs and check URIBLs
> -->NEW OPTION<--
> Get IP from Host
> Convert IP into a DNSBL like DNS query using another set of DNSBL entries
> (lets call ut the HOSTIPBL)
> -->END OF NEW<--
>
> Why you ask? Because URIBL's use a number of techniques but they all
> require the existence of the domain/host in order to list.  There are a
> lot of "bullet proof hosters out there as well as bogus ESP's who control
> known IP blocks, stolen 'hijacked' netblocks and netblocks controlled
> entirely by professional spammers.  These are what I want the capability
> to detect no matter what the host/domain name is on the URL.  This will
> catch URLs before the get listed in a URIBL.
>
> Tom
>
>
> On Jan 6, 2012, at 2:01 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
>
>> URIBL = detect 'WEB-SERVER" URL's that are bad
>> DNSBL = detect 'SMTP-SERVER-IP's ' that should not send mails
>>
>> These are two different things, each one has nothing to do with the
> other.
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:    TR Shaw<ts...@oitc.com>
>> An:     ASSP development mailing list<assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Datum:  06.01.2012 01:19
>> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Feature request
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like an option to, for every url processed with URIBL's, convert
>
>> the host name to IP and then query the DNSBL's.
>>
>> Tom
>>
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