> Where I'm not sure - is it useable to implement a configurable inheritance functionality.

>Or is it more practicable to have the inheritance switched off per default and it must be enabled for each line in question (i) ?

Either style would be OK for me.

> And the last question - should it be possible to define dependencies for the different assp mail flags?

I do not currently have a use case for this, so I currently don't need it. Of course that could always change.

- Bob

On 8/19/2017 4:25 AM, Thomas Eckardt wrote:
Hello everyone,

the attachment level definitions are subject to be obsolet (removed) in a future release. Only 'UserAttach' will be available.

I know, 'UserAttach' can currently be hard to manage - for example in large environments.
What are my plans for this?

- named policies (templates) can be defined - like: ~policyname => block => bla|blaa , ....... - policies can be used any where - like : zip:a...@domain.com => %policyname%
- policies can be joined - like: :a...@domain.com => %policy1%|%policy2%

Where I'm not sure - is it useable to implement a configurable inheritance functionality.

* => policy1
*@domain.com => policy2|policy3
us...@domain.com => policy4
(-i)us...@domain.com => policy4
(-i)*@otherdomain.com => policy2|policy5
us...@otherdomain.com => policy6

If per default inheritance is enabled. The resulting configurations for each of the above lines would be:

* => policy1
*@domain.com => policy1|policy2|policy3
us...@domain.com =>  policy1|policy2|policy3|policy4
us...@domain.com => policy4
*@otherdomain.com => policy2|policy5
us...@otherdomain.com =>  policy2|policy5|policy6

Or is it more practicable to have the inheritance switched off per default and it must be enabled for each line in question (i) ? (I prever the first variant - inheritance on per default)

* => policy1
(i)*@domain.com => policy2|policy3
(i)us...@domain.com => policy4
us...@domain.com => policy4
*@otherdomain.com => policy2|policy5
(i)us...@otherdomain.com => policy6


And the last question - should it be possible to define dependencies for the different assp mail flags (whitelisted and noprocessing). like:

(-i wl np)*@otherdomain.com => policy2|policy5

where (-i wl np) will be interpreted as : inheritance OFF, applies to whitelisted and noprocessing senders only

Any suggestion on this?

Thomas


Von: K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
An: ASSP development mailing list <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
Datum: 14.08.2017 15:22
Betreff: Re: [Assp-test] More PDF Javascript catches
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As always, I appreciate your input.  I feared this was going to be your response.  Most of these erroneously blocked mails come from big providers (like travel agency confirmation pdfs). I'm surprised that they have javascript, but they do.  We've been adding exceptions, which isn't fun, but is okay.

Do you think there's a way you could change UserAttach, or add another exception list, to let us use variables like %LEVEL2% to indicate all of the Level 2 defined types and then use + or - notation to add or remove types?  That would let us change Level2 in the GUI and not have to then go through all of the UserAttach exceptions and update them too.

So something like this:

Our Level 1 is exe\-bin|url|ade|adp|asx|bas|bat|dot|dotx|xlt|xlts|bin|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|dbx|dll|exe|hlp|hta|htb|inf|ifs|isp|js|jse|lnk|mda|mdb|mde|mdz|mht|msc|msi|msp|mst|nch|pcd|pif|prf|ps1|reg|scf|scr|sct|shb|shs|vb|vbe|vbs|vba|wms|wsc|wsh|rar|dotm|docm|xlsm|pptm Our Level 2 is (exe\-bin|url|ade|adp|asx|bas|bat|dot|dotx|xlt|xlts|bin|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|dbx|dll|exe|hlp|hta|htb|inf|ifs|isp|js|jse|lnk|mda|mdb|mde|mdz|mht|msc|msi|msp|mst|nch|pcd|pif|prf|ps1|reg|scf|scr|sct|shb|shs|vb|vbe|vbs|vba|wms|wsc|wsh|rar|dotm|docm|xlsm|pptm).zip

This user needs to ALLOW office macros
ouru...@ourcharity.org => block => *exe\-bin|:MSOM|*url|ade|adp|asx|bas|bat|dot|dotx|xlt|xlts|bin|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|dbx|dll|exe|hlp|hta|htb|inf|ifs|isp|js|jse|lnk|mda|mdb|mde|mdz|mht|msc|msi|msp|mst|nch|pcd|pif|prf|ps1|reg|scf|scr|sct|shb|shs|vb|vbe|vbs|vba|wms|wsc|wsh|rar|dotm|xlsm

My proposal would be to instead have something like
ouru...@ourcharity.org => block => %Leve2%|+:MSOM   (add the :MSOM exception)


Just a thought.  Thanks

On Thu, Aug 10, 2017 at 3:16 AM, Thomas Eckardt <_Thomas.Eckardt@thockar.com_ <mailto:thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>> wrote: One line of bad JS code is enough to completely destroy an IT environment (petabytes of data and thousands of machines in some minutes). Such code can be encrypted, encoded and obviuscated in any not thinkable way.

It is simply not possible to classify JS code or to know how any of the hundreds PDF viewers will act on such code.

Accepting executable code from a sender is not a matter of classification - it is a matter of TRUST ! (I trust no one without human code verification)

Define ':CERTPDF' and request the sender to sign there PDF files.

For now, assp only checks that there is a certificated. In a future release the certificates may be verified and/or compared to a provided CERT-list.



Thomas





Von: K Post <_nntp.post@gmail.com_ <mailto:nntp.p...@gmail.com>>
An: ASSP development mailing list <_assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net_ <mailto:assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>>
Datum: 09.08.2017 15:54
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I really like the javascript detection in PDF files, but I've seen lots of false positives too.

I keep meaning to report it.  One file that just got caught has only 2 lines of javascript

6 0 obj
<</S/JavaScript/JS(this.zoom = 100;)>>
endobj


and

33 0 obj
<</Dests 31 0 R/JavaScript 32 0 R>>
endobj

Is there anything more that could be done to be less aggressive but still give us good protection?

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