Well that'll do it!  I incorrectly thought all these years that "no
processing" actually meant NO processing.    Looking back, the NWLI options
have only been a choice for 11 years!!!!   I'm surprised I never caught
this happening (correctly) before.

I agree that it the gui doesn't say anywhere that noProcessing isn't
processed by the penaltybox, but it's literally called NoProcessing, not
less processing, etc, hence my confusion.

GUI says:

Mail solely to or from any of these addresses are proxied without
processing. The envelope sender and recipients are checked. Like a more
efficient version of Spam-Lovers & redlist combined. Accepts specific
addresses (u...@domain.com), user parts (user) or entire domains (@
domain.com). Wildcards are supported (fribo*@domain.com). If you register
TO addresses here, all recipients for a single mail must be marked as
noprocessing to flag the mail as "noprocessing".


My money says that 90%+ of the admins using ASSP have the same
misperception as I do on this.  I suggest we add:

Note: Messages flagged as "no processing" will not contribute to the corpus
and will not be scored based on Bayesian/HMM detection.  However, by
default, "Penalty Box" / Bomb scroing will still take place.  See !!!NWLI!!!
option to override this default behavior.








On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:25 AM Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:

> >*(not sure why this line is in the log twice)*
>
> because the string was found twice
>
>
> >*msg rejected, even though no processing*
>
> I can't find anything in the manual, which states that 'noprocessing'
> mails are not processed by the penaltybox
>
> Scores are added by the bomb feature, because assp is configured to score
> noprocessing mails.
> bombReNP
> or
> ....=>NWLI is used (N at least for this regex)
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:        "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
> assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:        17.10.2021 02:02
> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Does Message Score build from Bomb matches
> override a DKIMNP match??
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I had an inbound message rejected by ASSP, where the DKIM signature
> matched DKIMNP. I would have thought that if there's a DKIMNP match, that
> the message will just be passed and saved in discarded.
>
> Also, Senderbase is white for the network that it came from. so that
> should have reduced the score by a lot.
>
> There was a bombDataRE match. seemingly twice for the same line. and also
> in BombData.  I've got Dear Friend, in both files by mistake, that'll be
> fixed, but that pushed the score above 50, so it was rejected.  Shouldn't
> DKIMNP override the rejection though?
>
> Here's the log, with my notes:
>
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org *DKIM-Signature
> found*
> Info: enhanced Originated IP detection ignored IP's: 102.xxx.yyy.85
> (connected IP) , 10.11.74.34
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org info:
> found DKIM signature identity '@*bounce.TheirDomain.com*
> <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>'
> @*bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/> @
> *bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>
> ,u...@ourchairty.org matches *.TheirDomain.com in DKIMNPAddresses*
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
> DKIM signature verified-OK - header-passed - identity is: @
> *bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/> - sender policy
> is: neutral - author policy s: neutral - *state changed to: noprocessing*
> Info: weighted regex (bombDataRe) result found for 'Dear Friend,' - with
> 'dear friend,' - weight is 0.5   *<-- we get a lot of Dear Friend,
> garbage, so I have it in BombData with a 50% score*
> Info: weighted regex (bombDataRe) result found for 'Dear Friend,' - with
> 'dear friend,' - weight is 0.5    *(not sure why this line is in the log
> twice)*
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org spambomb
> Regex: bombDataRe 'PB 18: for Dear Friend,'
> msg11890-19574 [BombData] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
> (BombData 'Dear Friend,')
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
> Message-Score: added 18 for Regex: bombDataRe 'PB 18: for Dear Friend,'
> BombData: 'Dear Friend,', total score for this message is now 18
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org spambomb
> Regex: bombRe 'PB 35: for Dear Friend'
> msg11890-19574 [BombData][bombRe] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
> (bombRe 'Dear Friend')
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
> Message-Score: added 35 for Regex: bombRe 'PB 35: for Dear Friend' bombRe:
> 'Dear Friend', total score for this message is now 53
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org deleting
> spamming safelisted tuplet: (102.xxx.yyy.0,*bounce.TheirDomain.com*
> <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>) age: 1s
> msg11890-19574 [MessageLimit] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [spam
> found] (*MessageScore 53, limit 50*) [Our  Newsletter October 15th 2021]
> -> messages/discarded/Our__Newsletter_October_15th_2021--254778.txt;
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org* [SMTP
> Error] 554 5.7.1* [PE] rejected msg [PR] [msg11890-19574 212EA668]  *<--
> msg rejected, even though no processing*
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org info:
> PB-IP-Score for '102.xxx.yyy.0' is 53, added 53 in this session
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org finished
> message - received DATA size: 138.82 kByte - sent DATA size: 0 Byte
> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
> disconnected: session:212EA668 102.xxx.yyy.85 - processing time 2 seconds
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