I guess I should have written
..... !!!N-W-L-I-!!! option to override this default behavior

On Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:24 AM K Post <nntp.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Well that'll do it!  I incorrectly thought all these years that "no
> processing" actually meant NO processing.    Looking back, the NWLI options
> have only been a choice for 11 years!!!!   I'm surprised I never caught
> this happening (correctly) before.
>
> I agree that it the gui doesn't say anywhere that noProcessing isn't
> processed by the penaltybox, but it's literally called NoProcessing, not
> less processing, etc, hence my confusion.
>
> GUI says:
>
> Mail solely to or from any of these addresses are proxied without
> processing. The envelope sender and recipients are checked. Like a more
> efficient version of Spam-Lovers & redlist combined. Accepts specific
> addresses (u...@domain.com), user parts (user) or entire domains (@
> domain.com). Wildcards are supported (fribo*@domain.com). If you register
> TO addresses here, all recipients for a single mail must be marked as
> noprocessing to flag the mail as "noprocessing".
>
>
> My money says that 90%+ of the admins using ASSP have the same
> misperception as I do on this.  I suggest we add:
>
> Note: Messages flagged as "no processing" will not contribute to the
> corpus and will not be scored based on Bayesian/HMM detection.  However, by
> default, "Penalty Box" / Bomb scroing will still take place.  See !!!NWLI!!!
> option to override this default behavior.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 4:25 AM Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
> wrote:
>
>> >*(not sure why this line is in the log twice)*
>>
>> because the string was found twice
>>
>>
>> >*msg rejected, even though no processing*
>>
>> I can't find anything in the manual, which states that 'noprocessing'
>> mails are not processed by the penaltybox
>>
>> Scores are added by the bomb feature, because assp is configured to score
>> noprocessing mails.
>> bombReNP
>> or
>> ....=>NWLI is used (N at least for this regex)
>>
>> Thomas
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Von:        "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
>> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
>> assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
>> Datum:        17.10.2021 02:02
>> Betreff:        [Assp-test] Does Message Score build from Bomb matches
>> override a DKIMNP match??
>> ------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>> I had an inbound message rejected by ASSP, where the DKIM signature
>> matched DKIMNP. I would have thought that if there's a DKIMNP match, that
>> the message will just be passed and saved in discarded.
>>
>> Also, Senderbase is white for the network that it came from. so that
>> should have reduced the score by a lot.
>>
>> There was a bombDataRE match. seemingly twice for the same line. and also
>> in BombData.  I've got Dear Friend, in both files by mistake, that'll be
>> fixed, but that pushed the score above 50, so it was rejected.  Shouldn't
>> DKIMNP override the rejection though?
>>
>> Here's the log, with my notes:
>>
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org 
>> *DKIM-Signature
>> found*
>> Info: enhanced Originated IP detection ignored IP's: 102.xxx.yyy.85
>> (connected IP) , 10.11.74.34
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org info:
>> found DKIM signature identity '@*bounce.TheirDomain.com*
>> <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>'
>> @*bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/> @
>> *bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>
>> ,u...@ourchairty.org matches *.TheirDomain.com in DKIMNPAddresses*
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
>> DKIM signature verified-OK - header-passed - identity is: @
>> *bounce.TheirDomain.com* <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/> - sender
>> policy is: neutral - author policy s: neutral - *state changed to:
>> noprocessing*
>> Info: weighted regex (bombDataRe) result found for 'Dear Friend,' - with
>> 'dear friend,' - weight is 0.5   *<-- we get a lot of Dear Friend,
>> garbage, so I have it in BombData with a 50% score*
>> Info: weighted regex (bombDataRe) result found for 'Dear Friend,' - with
>> 'dear friend,' - weight is 0.5    *(not sure why this line is in the log
>> twice)*
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org spambomb
>> Regex: bombDataRe 'PB 18: for Dear Friend,'
>> msg11890-19574 [BombData] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
>> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
>> (BombData 'Dear Friend,')
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
>> Message-Score: added 18 for Regex: bombDataRe 'PB 18: for Dear Friend,'
>> BombData: 'Dear Friend,', total score for this message is now 18
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org spambomb
>> Regex: bombRe 'PB 35: for Dear Friend'
>> msg11890-19574 [BombData][bombRe] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
>> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [scoring]
>> (bombRe 'Dear Friend')
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
>> Message-Score: added 35 for Regex: bombRe 'PB 35: for Dear Friend' bombRe:
>> 'Dear Friend', total score for this message is now 53
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org deleting
>> spamming safelisted tuplet: (102.xxx.yyy.0,*bounce.TheirDomain.com*
>> <http://bounce.theirdomain.com/>) age: 1s
>> msg11890-19574 [MessageLimit] 102.xxx.yyy.85 <
>> *bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org [spam
>> found] (*MessageScore 53, limit 50*) [Our  Newsletter October 15th 2021]
>> -> messages/discarded/Our__Newsletter_October_15th_2021--254778.txt;
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org* [SMTP
>> Error] 554 5.7.1* [PE] rejected msg [PR] [msg11890-19574 212EA668]  *<--
>> msg rejected, even though no processing*
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org info:
>> PB-IP-Score for '102.xxx.yyy.0' is 53, added 53 in this session
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org finished
>> message - received DATA size: 138.82 kByte - sent DATA size: 0 Byte
>> msg11890-19574 102.xxx.yyy.85 <*bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com*
>> <bounce_ab...@bounce.theirdomain.com>> to: u...@ourchairty.org
>> disconnected: session:212EA668 102.xxx.yyy.85 - processing time 2 seconds
>>
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