"Micheal Espinola Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 
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> Chris Norman wrote:
>> One thing that would make ASSP easier to adopt is some basic settings
>> recommendations.  Think browser security settings (high, medium, low).
>> At least it would configure ASSP for the new "customer" and give them a
>> starting point or baseline from which to tweak.
>>
>
> Default/basic settings are reflected in the web interface.
> high/medium/low is nothing that can baselines here.  Spam and the best
> way to block it is subjective.  There is no happy medium here.  People
> complain either way and have to learn things on their own.  I doubt
> we'll see settings options like that for a looong time, because of both
> the decision process as well as the coding that would be required..

I agree with Chris on this one.  As someone who has just recently started 
using ASSP (still in testmode), and slowly catching up to the learning 
curve, I can testify that it is very daunting to jump into the fight without 
really knowing / understanding how or where to start the fight.  Although 
fighting spam is a subjective thing, having real life examples help out 
tremendously.  The default settings are rather lack-lustre at best, and 
didn't help me learn much.  Fritz's examples, however, helped me enormously. 
I know that had there been more examples I could look at/learn from, I know 
it could only be more beneficial.

And especially at the beginning where there is soooo much to learn, I found 
it much easier to start with a functional system and work my way backwards 
to understand why some things were done, rather than to start at a pretty 
bare system and try to figure out how to set it up for a real-world 
application.


>> Another, IMHO, would be something on the WiKi (or elsewhere) for regex's
>> that the ASSP community can vote up or down in regards to
>> effectiveness.  There are a few in the community that are very adept at
>> creating effective regex's and everyone seems very willing to share
>> these.  A small site that affords the user the ability to upload an ASSP
>> regex. The site displays the regex along with the user's name.  In the
>> Interface, I can "import from wiki" by clicking a link that would popup
>> a window and list the top X regexs (or regexs from top rated submitters,
>> or regexs from a particular user).  Upon selection and an OK click, the
>> javascript passes that back to the interface.
>> Something like that.
>>
>
> I'm all for it.  If someone can find something to vote with either
> wiki-integrated or otherwise, I'll gladly add it to the site.

Again, a fantastic idea.  The more contributions we have, only the better it 
can be.

I took a quick stroll around google looking for some form of a mediawiki 
plugin for voting, but instead ran across ValueWiki 
(http://www.valuewiki.com/w/Category:Top_10) where they have voting 
capabilities built into their mediawiki site.  I tried to dig further, but 
couldn't find anything, but I figured that there would have to be somebody 
who knows how they did it...  But I couldn't even find a contact-us or 
anything on the site.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Eric




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