It looks kind of interesting. It seems like it's a sort of "aggregator" 
for rbl/uribl/spf information, to remove the guesswork of picking and 
choosing which ones are reliable and trustworthy.

It seems like a cool idea, but I don't think it's right for ASSP. From 
what I can tell, ASSP is more about taking "guesswork" and turning it 
into "fine tuning", getting an intimate knowledge of the tests that you 
are performing against incoming mail and leveraging for maximum 
performance. If you asked your average ASSP installation about what is 
best in life, it would reply "To crush [spammers], see them driven 
before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women!"

At least that's what ASSP has been for me :)

If you use the KarmaSphere RBL and it included results from XYZ RBL, for 
example, would using both KarmaSphere's RBL and  XYZ RBL in your list of 
RBLs get you 2 hits from the same IP? It would get dangerous if you 
didn't keep track of what KarmaSphere included and didn't include. That 
is, of course, unless it is intended as a replacement for all other 
RBL/RWL/URIBL providers, in which case it needs more examination. I'm 
not all that fond of putting all my eggs in one basket, however. The day 
can (will?) come that KarmaSphere launches a GoodMail-esque "pay here to 
bypass filters" business model. Maybe I'm paranoid, but that's probably 
also why I use 13 different RBL providers, 12 specializing in a 
different kind of spam and 1 general provider to back up the rest.

I would definitely like to hear other thoughts on this, however. Nothing 
bad can ever come from increased discussion and learning.

What sort of results did you get from KarmaSphere over a regular list of 
RBLs?

GrayHat wrote:
> Hello all, I've been trying the karmasphere RBL
> interface http://www.karmasphere.com/ for some
> weeks now on a secondary "test server" and the
> results seem good enough; looking at the docs
> here
>
> http://www.karmasphere.com/devzone/docs/overview
>
> http://www.karmasphere.com/corp/about/howitworks
>
> the whole idea seems good and as I wrote the
> results seem to confirm that; now, while I used
> the ASSP built-in DNSBL/DNSWL features to
> test KarmaSphere, the "service" is more than
> just a DNS based system since it's based on
> "feeds" which allow to perform a whole lot of
> different checks (e.g. on URLs, SPF-like and
> much more); the good news is that there is a
> Perl client for the KarmaSphere service which
> is already available here
>
> http://cpan.uwinnipeg.ca/dist/Mail-Karmasphere-Client
>
> now, I don't know if you think it may be worth,
> but judging from the results I obtained just using
> the plain vanilla RBL/RWL I think that adding the
> karmasphere module to ASSP may be cool
>
>
>
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