Hey everyone, I'm just getting back from vacation now, catching up on email.


GrayHat wrote:
> 
> Yes, at a bare minimum, using the DNS interface you'll be able to
> perform standard RBL queries, then, if you use the "client module"
> you'll be able to feed to KS as much data you have and retrieve
> a "weighted response" which may help cutting the time needed to
> check a given incoming message
> 

Here are a couple examples of the kind of query response you can get when
you use the client module.

20070730-14:09:39 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% karmaclient --tcp
--composite=karmasphere.manywl --domain=yahoo.com 
Response id 'mkc0': ???ms, 1 combinations, 5 facts
Combiner 'karmasphere.manywl': verdict 1000 (mailzone.dnswl=1000*1000.0
mailzone.wl5=1000*1000.0 mailzone.wl6=1000*1000.0
uribl.domain-white=1000*1000.0 verisign.securedsitelist=1000*1000.0)
Feed 'mailzone.dnswl': identity 'yahoo.com' opinion 1000 (Listed in
dnswl.mailzone.com)
Feed 'mailzone.wl5': identity 'yahoo.com' opinion 1000 (Listed in
wl5.mailzone.com)
Feed 'uribl.domain-white': identity 'yahoo.com' opinion 1000 (Whitelisted,
see http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=$)
Feed 'verisign.securedsitelist': identity 'yahoo.com' opinion 1000 (null
data)
Feed 'mailzone.wl6': identity 'yahoo.com' opinion 1000 (Listed in Meng's
whitelist)

20070730-14:09:43 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~% karmaclient --tcp
--composite=karmasphere.email-sender --ip4=127.0.0.2 
Response id 'mkc0': ???ms, 1 combinations, 12 facts
Combiner 'karmasphere.email-sender': verdict -1000 (abuseat.cbl: if-bad(0)
=> return-bad(1.0))
Feed 'spamcop.bl': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Blocked - see
http://www.spamcop.net/bl.shtml?$)
Feed 'cymru.bogons': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Invalid source IP
address (cymru))
Feed 'uribl.ip-grey': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Greylisted, see
http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=$)
Feed 'abuseat.cbl': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Blocked - see
http://cbl.abuseat.org/lookup.cgi?ip=$)
Feed 'virbl.blacklist': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (VIRBL test
entry)
Feed 'dsbl.list': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000
(http://dsbl.org/listing?$)
Feed 'njabl.dnsbl': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion 1000 (open relay --
1008601823)
Feed 'trusted-forwarder.ips': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion 1000 (Listed in
trusted-forwarder.org)
Feed 'returnpath.senderscorecertified': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion 1000
(Listed in ReturnPath Sender Score Certified)
Feed 'sorbs.safe': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Low false positive
zone See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?$)
Feed 'uribl.ip-black': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (Blacklisted, see
http://lookup.uribl.com/?domain=$)
Feed 'tqmcube.dhcp': identity '127.0.0.2' opinion -1000 (TEST record. See
http://tqmcube.com)


GrayHat wrote:
> 
> heh.. that may be possible, as it may be possible for KS to go
> commercial and only offer their services to paying customers
> but... that doesn't apparently seem to be their business model
> at least not at the moment; again, I'd like to know more about
> who is behind KS, all I can say for the moment is that it seems
> to be working.. and working well enough
> 

I'm behind KS.  The SPF / DK movement showed us that authentication is not
enough; you need reputation as well, to keep track of the good guys and bad
guys.  So I built Karmasphere to provide reputation.

One thing KS provides is simplicity.  There are so many DNSBLs out there,
we're at the point where if reputation is to take off, it'll help to have a
one-stop-shop for reputation queries, so that the next time an Osirusoft or
ORDB goes dark, admins everywhere won't have to scramble to update their
config files.

KS also encourages the development of domain whitelists.  IP blacklists are
getting kind of old; I believe that domain whitelists are the next step.  So
Karmasphere supports that.

KS is also bringing up some next-generation tools that make it easy to
research the reputation of any URL or domain.  A couple of examples:

http://labs.karmasphere.org/dp/
http://www.karmasphere.com/help/faq/visibl

Finally, I know that no reputation system is perfect.  I want to point out
that "karmasphere.email-sender" is just one feedset; other combinations of
feeds are equally possible.  In the spirit of Web 2.0, if you don't like a
particular feedset, you can go ahead and clone it and tweak it.  If you
don't agree with a particular feed, you can upload your own whitelists and
blacklists.  So in that sense KS is like the Flickr of DNSBLs/DNSWLs.

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