Hi,

I have the "correct" setup in most of my servers. But like I sad, sometimes
I notice best performance results when Postfix
take care the initial handshaking. If you have more than 30-40 connections
concurrently in ASSP, the initial MTA banner sometimes takes
a long time to appear (still in 2.x version) and the message
transfer throughput can be a problem.

I will research about exim more deeply.

Thanks,

Alexandre




2014-09-02 10:07 GMT-03:00 Mr. Courtney Creighton <a...@dezignguy.com>:

> Well, it still looks like you're just duplicating the inherent
> functionality of ASSP the hard way. ASSP doesn't 'reinject' anything...
> as a transparent proxy, it is always passing the SMTP conversation to
> and from the mailserver.
>
> If I am reading your original message correctly, then the way you
> apparently have your mailserver configured sounds like you have Postfix
> listening on port 25 and 587, and then you use the content_filter to
> pass it off to ASSP which then loops back into another port that Postfix
> is listening on (without content_filter - so you don't have an endless
> loop) which then sends it on to the mail's destination. So you basically
> have Postfix talking to itself, in a loop, with ASSP in the middle.
>
> If that is your setup, then that's definitely the hard way, and
> unnecessary, and I don't see how you can possibly save any resources on
> a high traffic system with it. If you have Postfix doing any sort of
> mail/ip preliminary checks or initial blocking, it's usually quite
> possible to either do those checks in ASSP or specifically configure the
> mailserver to handle the needed checks with ASSP in front of it.
>
> You could indeed implement that same Postfix config with exim, but I
> wouldn't recommend it.
>
> But yes, it's kinda a problem if you're using ASSP v.1. It's been a
> while since I moved to v2, and I don't remember the config changes I had
> to do for the migration. You can, and should, migrate to v2, by
> installing a newer version of perl in /opt and configuring assp to use
> that version (if that's the blocking reason why you're still using v1
> there). Remember to install the necessary cpan packages there too.
>
> But if you're still interested, I can provide my exim-specific assp
> config - basically the network setup - and you can translate it as
> necessary for your v1 setup.
>
> -C
>
>
> Alexandre de Arruda Paes said the following on 9/1/2014 4:41 PM:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have about 50 servers with ASSP. With postfix installations (standalone
> > or with Zimbra), I use ASSP 2.x as a proxy. But, in high traffic
> > enviroments, the best way is to allow MTA to do this job after antispam.
> > In this particular server, we use exim instead postfix and ASSP
> > 1.9(yes,this is part of the problem). Then, I want to test a similar
> > scenario to try avoiding problems with this version of assp. :}
> >   Em 01/09/2014 19:03, "Mr. Courtney Creighton" <a...@dezignguy.com>
> > escreveu:
> >
> >> ASSP/Exim does that automatically, just with setting it up properly.
> >>
> >> Your users sending good mail on port 587 should be authenticated, and
> >> ASSP will use that information for the notspam collection and whitelist
> >> additions... with the proper settings. It's all automatic, if you have
> >> the settings correct. And you don't need to "reinject" mail.
> >>
> >> And your flow diagrams are incorrect... they should look something like
> >> this:
> >>
> >> Internet -> ASSP proxy (25) -> ASSP (spam test) -> exim -> local
> delivery
> >> Internet -> ASSP proxy (587) -> ASSP (/notspam collect) -> exim -> relay
> >> to internet
> >>
> >> If you need help with setting up the ports in ASSP/Exim, let me know and
> >> I'll show you my config for that.
> >>
> >> -C
> >>
> >>
> >> Alexandre de Arruda Paes said the following on 9/1/2014 1:54 PM:
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> My skiil in exim are minimal, but I need to use it in one server.
> >>> I'm thinking about a way to do the following:
> >>>
> >>> Internet -> exim (25) -> ASSP (spam test) -> exim -> local delivery
> >>> Internet -> exim (587) -> ASSP (/notspam collect) -> exim -> relay to
> >>> internet
> >>>
> >>> If an e-mail come to submission, I use ASSP to collect notspam. If the
> >>> e-mail come
> >>> to local delivery, ASSP will test e-mail and if it's is ok, reinject to
> >>> exim.
> >>>
> >>> In postifix, this is very easy by setting content_filter in master.cf
> >> and
> >>> using relay host and relay port in ASSP to reinject e-mail in a port
> >>> without content_filter.
> >>> But I don't know how to do this in exim.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>>
> >>> Alexandre
> >>>
> >>
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