:: On Sun, 19 Apr 2015 22:27:16 +0000 (WET DST)
:: <14295004370.efee9aa.5...@m5.chicago.il.us>
:: "Jay F. Shachter" <j...@m5.chicago.il.us> wrote:

> This is, in a sense, the right thing to do, because even if my Postfix
> accepted the STARTTLS command (it does not), port 25 is not the
> appropriate port on which to send it; it should be sent to port 587

nope, port 25 may (and usually does) accept a STARTTLS command and
upgrade the session to SSL; port 587 is the "submit" port and, as for
the RFCs it should enforce authentication and may optionally support
STARTTLS, then there's port 465 which is widely used for implicit SSL
what I suspect is that you're confusing explicit SSL and implicit SSL
usage






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