David, about 2., the code should *NOT* use sleep() or nanosleep() to
wait after EAGAIN or you risk *DRAMATIC* priority inversion problems.
I have experimented with this and EAGAIN can happen 2000, 200, 20, or
just 2 times, or 0 times.
The best solution we found is just to call sched_yield() and let the
process spin. This will not affect system performance as the code
walked in userland is very very small, and sched_yield() will
guarantee that the kernel will only give CPU time if the scheduler
queue cycles. At the same time, if sched_yield() is used (not
nanosleep()!!!!!), the scheduler will give less and less priority to
the spinning process. I tested this on Solaris, Linux, Illumos,
FreeBSD and OSX.

Olga

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 4:09 PM, David Korn <[email protected]> wrote:
> cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Re: [ast-developers] [patch] kill(1) |sigqueue()| fixes+|EAGAIN| 
>  handling etc. ... / was: Re: |sigqueue()| fixes+|EAGAIN| handling etc. ...
> --------
>
>> Attached (as "astksh20130814_sigqueuerepeat002.diff.txt") is a patch
>> which fixes (some of) the issues listed above...
>
>
> I read over Rolands patch and while it contains useful ideas, I have
> some problems with it.
>
> Let me go over them piece by piece.
>
> 1.      Add -Q to pass addresses.
>         Currently the shell has no way of utilizing an address so there
>         is no present need.  Currently, the value field models the
>         C standard and treats value as a union.  However, it could treat
>         the field as an integer choosing the large of void* and int as
>         the size and pass the value that way.  I would add a typedef
>         for this type.  It would be an integral type rather than a union.
>         A user could do kill -q $((0x4000abc)) or just kill -q 0x4000abc to
>         send a pointer since optget will convert to an integer.
>         Programs could format the value as an address or as an int.
>         I think that this needs more discussion before adding -Q.
>         Commands already have too many options so I am reluctant to
>         add an option unless necessary.
>
> 2.      Add -R to handle EAGAIN
>         I don't think that this is needed.  EAGAIN should be handled
>         as it is with fork with an exponential  back-off algorithm that
>         times out after around 30 seconds.  EINTR will cause a retry
>         unless trapnote has pending trap or signal to process in which
>         case kill will fail.
>
> 3.      Add -C to not send SIGCONT when sending a signal.  I don't
>         see why you would want to send a signal to a stopped process
>         and not have it react.  I believe that C-shell (the originator
>         of job control) always sent SIGCONT.  If there is a need for
>         this, I could be convinced.
>
> Let me know what you think.
>
> David Korn
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