>
> INIT contains only the build system and a way to download the individual 
> source packages. > ast-open is AFAIK the recommended way to obtain all stuff, 
> including libast.
>
     I cannot test and verify the following as extensively as I'd like, because 
the server on which I can run the INIT package sits behind corporate firewalls 
and cannot download packages. But I believe that your statement above is false. 
INIT does *not* contain a functioning  build system because INIT, by itself, 
cannot even execute components like ${INSTALLROOT}/bin/mkdir which is called by 
${PACKAGEROOT}/bin/package setup:

++++++++++++++++++++
root@lipossrp01ga: # echo $PACKAGEROOT
/data/archive/asttest
/data/archive/asttest
root@lipossrp01ga: # echo $INSTALLROOT
/data/archive/asttest/arch/ibm.risc
/data/archive/asttest
root@lipossrp01ga: # bin/package setup
Could not load program mkdir:
        Dependent module libast.so could not be loaded.
Could not load module libast.so.
System error: No such file or directory
/data/archive/asttest
root@lipossrp01ga: #
++++++++++++++++++++

Even though AST versions of standard Unix commands like 'mkdir' are also  part 
of the ast-open package, these commands are included as part of the INIT 
package with the intent (I imagine) of being able to execute them in the course 
of using the INIT package to retrieve and build other AST packages. Perhaps it 
is not necessary to run "bin/package setup" in order to do that, and perhaps no 
other use is made of $INSTALLROOT/bin/mkdir? (Nor of  'ratz', 'mamake', 'proto' 
and 'release', all in $INSTALLROOT/bin  and which also fail with the same 
error?)  Again, firewalls make it impractical for me to try all this out.

But it seems to me that if you are going to include such binaries as part of 
the INIT package they should be able to execute, either by including libast.so 
(& possibly other dependencies?) or supplying statically-linked versions.

Yours,

George Reimer

-----Original Message-----
From: Irek Szczesniak [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:20 PM
To: Reimer, George
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ast-users] No libast in INIT package?

On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 5:03 PM, Reimer, George <[email protected]> 
wrote:
> Hello,
>
>      I'm new to the AST software archive and perhaps I am using things 
> improperly, but as best as I understand the instructions at 
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www2.research.att.co
> m/sw/download/&k=%2FbkpAUdJWZuiTILCq%2FFnQg%3D%3D%0A&r=W%2F5gbnNveYGG1
> XCX8vQsiY6orNnjdBtrtn%2BMb0MZjfw%3D%0A&m=m7vyR2p8akeCzEfg2jZunNTQkLwg3
> mbCAIr7NRhnMUE%3D%0A&s=0ee56e80e9ec3a07f15d8040ddfcad1f6ecd925567b3cfa941e39cbd4109a9bd
>  , I should be able to use the "package" script in the INIT package to 
> retrieve and install other AST packages, though it's also possible to 
> retrieve and install at least some of them manually.

INIT contains only the build system and a way to download the individual source 
packages. ast-open is AFAIK the recommended way to obtain all stuff, including 
libast.

Irek

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