Paul wrote:

The discussion was about smaller providers. They can create a vpn tunnel
to connect their asterisk and ser to the customer. If the customer can't
use vonage and others because his ISP is playing games, so much the
better for the smaller provider who implements vpn.

But the small provider hosting the asterisk/ser are also subject to the intervention and service interuptions, unless the asterisk box does not utilize ip transmission to an additional terminator such as L3, or ... In the US/NE Verizon owns the last mile for non cable access (e.g. T3, T1, DSL, etc...) and Verizon is one of the companies who feel they own the transmission as stated in the article I had referenced in a
previous post.

I agree if a small provider tunnels (vpn) to a client and the provider is exclusive to multiple pots lines, there would be no (or few) issues, but that is not usually
the case, as I see it... maybe I'm wrong?

When it comes to the customer, they don't care if the breakdown is between
them and the small provider or between the small provider and terminator. All
they know is it don't work, and drop the small provider like a hot rock.

2.5 cents, sorry

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