Good explanation... Thanks...
It helps put the situation into a whole new light. -- Nick On Thu, 24 May 2007, Moshe Maeir wrote: > First of all - journalists always a short list of people that they call > when they need an opinion, reaction on something. Once you are on the > list > and are known, they will always call you. Why waste time with someone > new? > > But more than that, Jeff has spent the last 10 years doing 2 main things > - building the VoIP industry as a community and developing relationships > with the outside world. In that aspect he has probably done more than > anybody else. Activities like the VON coalition, petitions to the FCC, > founding FWD etc. have helped represent the VoIP industry in a positive > way. His VON shows are the place to go to make deals in the VoIP space. > > So is he the "end-all-be-all voip expert" as you write - No. But he is > the public face of the VoIP industry. Mark Spencer on the other hand > revolutionized and popularized the use of open source telephony for > PBXes. Is he VoIP only? No. Has he spent all the time and effort that > Jeff has on building relationships and representing the industry - No. So > while we owe a lot to Mark, he hasn't promoted the industry or himself as > much, so the reporters don't call him > n wrote: > > I've always wondered... what exactly did Jeff Pulver do to be awarded > this God-like status in the tech media? Don't get me wrong, I don't know > him, or anything about him other than what I read online in the media... > and I don't have any personal problem with him. But I constantly see him > quoted as the "end-all-be-all voip expert" that the reporters seem to bow > down to and kiss his feet. I know he's been in the industry for a long > time, and he has done some important stuff (like FWD), but what did he do > to earn such praise and high regard over everyone else? > > Personally, I think Mark Spencer has done far more good for the > advancement of VOIP and telephony projects by small companies than Jeff > Pulver or anyone else for that matter, yet he gets maybe a fraction of the > attention and admiration that Jeff does. > > What exactly am I missing here? > > It's not meant as a negative, just a "trying to understand". > > -- Nick > > > On Wed, 23 May 2007, Dean Collins wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Personally I don't think you have really tried all that hard - they've > always been very responsive to my needs and I think they are a super > company for the voip industry. > > > > Regards, > > Dean Collins > Cognation Pty Ltd > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +1-212-203-4357 Ph > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2007 5:27 PM > To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia > > Where to? > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve > > > Totaro > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:22 PM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia > > Send an email to Jeff. > > Thanks, > Steve Totaro > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 5:13 PM > To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' > Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia > > If this crap continues, Pulver won't see a dime from me. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael > > > Iedema > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:08 PM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] PulverMedia > > > > doesn't get me anywhere. For months I've been trying to > > > unsubscribe > > > an > > > old > > > address with a misspelled name from their mailings (seemingly only > > > VON > > > Europe sends me anything). > > > I'm going through exactly the same thing here... > > If you do end up succeeding, please post back so I can do the same. > > --Michael I. > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-biz mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz > > > > > -- > > > > Moshe Maeir > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > +972-54-8101800 > > Your own Domain from only $1.99! > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- asterisk-biz mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-biz
