And I am the opposite, being able to program Trixbox does not make me a
techie. I think the main failing of the open source voice community is the
lack of sale and marketing collateral. This means we do not get the messages
out in the mind of the users/buyers. Currently all our businesses exist in
isolation.

Regards

Mark

On 10/16/07, shadowym <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Like a lot of techies, I'm strong on the technical stuff but weak on
> marketing/sales.  I'm sure there are a LOT of people who could benefit
> from a sales/marketing wiki or forum or whatever for sharing ideas/marketing
> material etc.
>
>
>
> *From:* bob murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2007 6:27 PM
> *To:* Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(
>
>
>
> My original intention, which I admit that I did not communicate clearly,
> was to suggest that we maintain dialogue on this board around best
> practices.  Specifically on how to position value and charge accordingly.
> And that we all present our respective organizations as high value add
> service boutiques specializing in Open Source Telephony integration.  This
> will allow all of us to offer solutions that are competitive to Cisco,
> Shoretel, Nortel etc.  and keep our respective bottom lines healthy.  Anyone
> who has lived through a technology adoption cycle (or three of them) knows
> what I am talking about.  We will all be well served, as will our clients,
> if we go into the mass adoption phase BEFORE commodization happens.  In a
> word - Community.  Let's maintain a community of opportunists who create a
> market opportunity.  I believe we can do this and all of us will prosper and
> our clients will be ecstatic.
>
>
>
> Bob Murphy
>
> Arreva Communications
>
>
>
> On 10/15/07, *Aleks Clark* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yea, price fixing aside, I can sympathize with wanting to know how much to
> charge for something...business not being my strong suite :P Of course,
> that's probably why I'm running telecoms in Iraq instead of selling voip and
> wifi in some nice burough...
>
>
>
> On 9/15/07, *Derrick Moennick* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
>
> Guys,
>
> No need to get up in arms here. For obvious reasons price fixing is not
> the way to go here. This is my mistake for adding my two cents. At any
> rate different markets require different pricing structures so to all
> conform to one pricing structure does not make sense - this is what I
> meant originally.
>
> /D
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul
> Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2007 9:37 PM
> To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion
> Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Check this out :(
>
> A literate person reading my first paragraph would see that my second
> paragraph is obvious sarcasm.
>
> Aren't you the fool who suggested price fixing in this thread? What else
> would you expect? There is an old saying that there is no honor among
> thieves. Please let me join your stupid game so I can break the rules
> and cut your throat.
>
> bob murphy wrote:
>
>
>
>
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