I just posted some stuff on jeff pulvers blog that might interest a few people reading this thread.
http://pulverblog.pulver.com/archives/007732.html Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +1-212-203-4357 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ________________________________ From: Dean Collins Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 12:52 PM To: 'Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion' Subject: RE: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ? > The point is, the JIAX code could and has been easily modified to create > a free Java web based IAX softphone if someone just did it. To me, that > indicates lack of demand (in the opensource area anyways). Yep one of the interesting 'dilemmas' in opensource is the 'skills/interests' of the developer versus the 'desires' of the ordinary user. Bounties to some degree has helped this but not always eg. When I put together a group of end users who were looking for video conferencing functionality (I think we got it up to about $7,000 before we gave up-no longer available as my main bounty provider purchased commercial hardware to solve their requirement). But in other areas it has helped. It's not a story that often gets repeated (lol - history is written by the winner as the old saying goes), but some people on this list will remember that the original developers of FreePBX released the product as opensource code....but their instructions for installation was terrible if not misleading. I offered a bounty of $50 to some guy in Ireland (I'm sorry I've forgotten your name - please get in contact if you read this) to write me out a full installation guide to take a bare/blank hard drive and install debian, asterisk and then freepbx. We then posted these instructions onto the asterisk-user mailing list and then Andrew then took this information and hard coded it into an ISO cd - which because [EMAIL PROTECTED] which became Trixbox. The point being I as an end user 'desired' something but had no way of making it happen. Just because users don't go off an learn java and improve on Jiax doesn't mean there isn't demand for it. In addition while I'm on my soapbox......... I work very heavily on the 6 month rule. * Whats hot today will be standard in 6 months So my point being - whilst asterisk is a 'nice' application unless it's continually pushing the boundaries....like click to talk from a web page.....it will be overtaken by development from the Ciscos/MS of the world. Whilst you may 'sell asterisk' as a plain vanilla device because it's cheaper - there will come a time when that differential gets a lot smaller. There is a lot of value tied to the big name brand that you aren't taking into account. Like I've said before a lot of Asterisk future value is tied to utilising external information easily as you would on a web page (check out some of the work Thomas Howe Company and Iotum are doing for examples). Without this it's just a cheap pbx. Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:asterisk-biz- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Totaro > Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:49 AM > To: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] Ribbit.com ? > > Dean, > > I wish it were mine to give back. > > I worked with/for a group. It is not my IP since it was not my code and > even the stuff I did myself (not very useful anyways) was on contracted > time. The contract was very specific about who owned the IP to any code > developed. Technically, by contract I should not have any code in my > possession at this point. > > The point is, the JIAX code could and has been easily modified to create > a free Java web based IAX softphone if someone just did it. To me, that > indicates lack of demand (in the opensource area anyways). > > Thanks, > Steve Totaro >
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