Brian, where are you?
_____________________________ Kris Cote Director of Internet Engineering StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:02 AM Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > I don't think I'd be stepping on toes if I told you guys we're paying about > $35/month per analog line with callerid, line hunting, call waiting, etc, etc > (basically the works minus voice mail) through AT&T > > That's Canadian so you'll have to work out the currency conversion > ie $1 USD = $1.65 CND > > > Jon Pounder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > > > > >Hey I hear ya, I am in much the same situation. > > > >PRI or channelized T1 is not really a cost effective solution until you are > >over at least 10 lines, and need features like the DID or callerid, hunt, > >etc. that you would pay a few bucks more each per line so the per line > >analog cost would have been driven up over $50/line. > > > >My thoughts were BRI's as well since they work out to about $40/B channel, > >and you can add and delete in fairly inexpensive groups of 2. You get all > >the CLASS features of the PRI, but without having to buy a ton of lines to > >get them. > > > >BRI channel bank is one option I guess, but fairly rare and expensive. > > > >I would love to find a bri to pri T1 multiplexer at a reasonable cost. I > >have seen a few for sale minus the BRI cards so no deal on them. > > > >The ones I have seen do much more than is actually needed here so likely > >the cost is excessive when bought new. > > > >I am still not really clear why the isdn modems that seem so common > >can't/won't work in this situation. Is it simply an issue of software does > >not exist ? Does the modem do something other than simply dump the > >composite digital datastream into the serial port ? I am familar with how a > >channelized T1 can be output/input via a v35 HSSI port - Does this same > >concept not extend to the BRI isdn and a regular speed serial port ? Is the > >issue that a conventional serial port is topped out at 115k and bri would > >be 64+64+16 ? If so, how does the modem work in bonded bearer channel mode > >for data ? > > > >Anyone got answers ? > > > > > >At 06:40 AM 3/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: > >>Hello! > >> > >>Several of my customers would like to add a backup to their Internet > >>connection. ISDN is a good solution: decently fast for a dial-up-type > >>connection, yet still faily affordable. While I was at it, I decided to > >>look at a couple of more creative telephone service options to possibly > >>improve their service or lower costs at the same time. These customers > >>range from having just a couple of POTS lines without a key system up to > >>as many as 18 POTS lines into systems such as AT&T Merlin or Nortel > >>Norstar systems. > >> > >>My first thought on the higher end was a PRI line. However, the cost > >>seems *very* prohibitive. The average cost for a PRI line was $550/month, > >>just for "dial tone"! I've heard others say that PRI becomes cost > >>effective in the 8 line range, but the cost for the office with 14 lines > >>($25/line * 14 lines) is only $350. It would take 22 lines before the PRI > >>would equal the cost of individual POTS lines! > >> > >>As an aside, I did a survey of several of my customers with 10-30 > >>employees. Most of them have POTS lines only (from between 4 and 10) fed > >>into some sort of PBX. Only one of them has a PRI line, and they wish > >>they hadn't gone that way: they thought they would need more lines than > >>they do, and now they feel that they're way over-buying. > >> > >>Am I missing something? When is a PRI competitive with POTS? And if I'm > >>not missing something, is there an alternative between POTS and a PRI, > >>particularly for 5-15 lines? None of the telephone companies I called > >>offered channelized T1 options for local service (let alone frac-T1), only > >>PRI. Are there other options? > >> > >>Finally, any alternatives for smaller companies? I tried to get a simple > >>BRI ISDN line for Internet backup for the company with 18 POTS lines. > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Ameritech (excuse me, SBC) charges $10/month more if you don't sign > >>a 36-month contract and wouldn't give it to them without a credit check, > >>several pieces of company information, the names and telephone numbers of > >>at least two officers of the company and a personal guarantee from an > >>officer! This for a customer who has had 18 POTS lines for *15* YEARS! > >> > >>I hate SBC... > >> > >>Thank you for reading my rant. I would greatly appreciate any information > >>or suggestions you might be able to give me. > >> > >>Tim Massey > >>_______________________________________________ > >>Asterisk-Users mailing list > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
