I'm right here ... where are you? Just kidding, I'm in Stratford, Ontario, Canada
As an aside, I looked at switching to your company for internet access from Bell HSE but switched to istop.com instead. We have a branch office in Kemptville (currently using Bell HSE - but only until I get time to get them switched to something else) that I'd like to connect to here via VoIP I have ordered two digium dev lite kits to try to connect the two (with asterisk) For two small offices, it's questionable whether it's worth the effort ... but it's a learning experience that will hopefully pay off by easing the opening of additional branch offices and providing an integrated whole > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Storm3 > Communications > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 22:39 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > > Brian, where are you? > > > _____________________________ > Kris Cote > Director of Internet Engineering > StormServer Internet / Storm3 Communications > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 7:02 AM > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] OT: PRI costs in US > > > > I don't think I'd be stepping on toes if I told you guys we're paying > about > > $35/month per analog line with callerid, line hunting, call > waiting, etc, > etc > > (basically the works minus voice mail) through AT&T > > > > That's Canadian so you'll have to work out the currency conversion > > ie $1 USD = $1.65 CND > > > > > > Jon Pounder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote*: > > > > > > > > >Hey I hear ya, I am in much the same situation. > > > > > >PRI or channelized T1 is not really a cost effective solution until you > are > > >over at least 10 lines, and need features like the DID or > callerid, hunt, > > >etc. that you would pay a few bucks more each per line so the per line > > >analog cost would have been driven up over $50/line. > > > > > >My thoughts were BRI's as well since they work out to about $40/B > channel, > > >and you can add and delete in fairly inexpensive groups of 2. > You get all > > >the CLASS features of the PRI, but without having to buy a ton of lines > to > > >get them. > > > > > >BRI channel bank is one option I guess, but fairly rare and expensive. > > > > > >I would love to find a bri to pri T1 multiplexer at a > reasonable cost. I > > >have seen a few for sale minus the BRI cards so no deal on them. > > > > > >The ones I have seen do much more than is actually needed here > so likely > > >the cost is excessive when bought new. > > > > > >I am still not really clear why the isdn modems that seem so common > > >can't/won't work in this situation. Is it simply an issue of software > does > > >not exist ? Does the modem do something other than simply dump the > > >composite digital datastream into the serial port ? I am > familar with how > a > > >channelized T1 can be output/input via a v35 HSSI port - Does this same > > >concept not extend to the BRI isdn and a regular speed serial port ? Is > the > > >issue that a conventional serial port is topped out at 115k > and bri would > > >be 64+64+16 ? If so, how does the modem work in bonded bearer channel > mode > > >for data ? > > > > > >Anyone got answers ? > > > > > > > > >At 06:40 AM 3/2/2003 -0500, you wrote: > > >>Hello! > > >> > > >>Several of my customers would like to add a backup to their Internet > > >>connection. ISDN is a good solution: decently fast for a > dial-up-type > > >>connection, yet still faily affordable. While I was at it, I > decided to > > >>look at a couple of more creative telephone service options > to possibly > > >>improve their service or lower costs at the same time. These > customers > > >>range from having just a couple of POTS lines without a key > system up to > > >>as many as 18 POTS lines into systems such as AT&T Merlin or Nortel > > >>Norstar systems. > > >> > > >>My first thought on the higher end was a PRI line. However, the cost > > >>seems *very* prohibitive. The average cost for a PRI line was > $550/month, > > >>just for "dial tone"! I've heard others say that PRI becomes cost > > >>effective in the 8 line range, but the cost for the office > with 14 lines > > >>($25/line * 14 lines) is only $350. It would take 22 lines before the > PRI > > >>would equal the cost of individual POTS lines! > > >> > > >>As an aside, I did a survey of several of my customers with 10-30 > > >>employees. Most of them have POTS lines only (from between 4 and 10) > fed > > >>into some sort of PBX. Only one of them has a PRI line, and they wish > > >>they hadn't gone that way: they thought they would need more > lines than > > >>they do, and now they feel that they're way over-buying. > > >> > > >>Am I missing something? When is a PRI competitive with POTS? And if > I'm > > >>not missing something, is there an alternative between POTS and a PRI, > > >>particularly for 5-15 lines? None of the telephone companies I called > > >>offered channelized T1 options for local service (let alone frac-T1), > only > > >>PRI. Are there other options? > > >> > > >>Finally, any alternatives for smaller companies? I tried to get a > simple > > >>BRI ISDN line for Internet backup for the company with 18 POTS lines. > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED]@ Ameritech (excuse me, SBC) charges $10/month more if you don't > sign > > >>a 36-month contract and wouldn't give it to them without a > credit check, > > >>several pieces of company information, the names and telephone numbers > of > > >>at least two officers of the company and a personal guarantee from an > > >>officer! This for a customer who has had 18 POTS lines for > *15* YEARS! > > >> > > >>I hate SBC... > > >> > > >>Thank you for reading my rant. I would greatly appreciate any > information > > >>or suggestions you might be able to give me. > > >> > > >>Tim Massey > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>Asterisk-Users mailing list > > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >Asterisk-Users mailing list > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Asterisk-Users mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
