They exist, but current ones cost a fortune. Used with understanding they do a fine job. Sadly people who don't understand them tend to read far to much into the answers they give. Sometimes they are seriously out of line with perceived quality, but they usually do well.

Yeah I wasnt clear I meant something that is either open sourced or
priced reasonable.

I've used the NetIQ stuff (on a weekly rental basis) and its pretty good
when used as a comparison tool. By that I mean making a simulation run,
adjusting parameters, and making another simulation run.

I do not mean to trivialize network management and do understand that
sometimes problems are outside your control (ie packets on the
uncontrolled internet may experience problems because of a tertiary
provider between you and the remote end) and as such this is just one
peice of the puzzle as I see it.
For those reasons may think VoIP will always suck. They might well be right.

Anyone that would say VoIP sucks becuase of that I would have to
question a bit, simply becuase VoIP doesnt mean voice over the open
internet, although to listen to marketing types that is often what they
want to claim.

FWIW, all of the major US carriers have some sort of VoIP backbone in production use, but its isolated from the Internet. Sprint, as one example, has been using it in their long distance backbone facilities for years, which is now migrating to handle the NexTel traffic.


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