Jay R. Ashworth wrote:

On Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 02:58:37PM -0700, Lee Howard wrote:
Well, fax detection isn't entirely reliable anyway. Even if you assume that your fax detection feature and operation is flawless in properly detecting fax tones (and that most likely would be a specious assumption), not all calling fax machines send fax tones.

So, y'know, that assertion gets made a lot.

What's the turn rate of fax machines in the market? 3 years?  5?  CNG
tones are *well* over 10 years old, no?

What percentage of fax calls are sent without CNG tones these days?


I couldn't say, myself, because I've not run statistics on it - and even if I did it would be skewed to the pool of fax systems used by the industry where I took the sampling.

The reason that some machines don't send fax tones isn't usually because they are old, but rather because the manufacturer or user have deliberately made it behave that way. For example, with a lot of traditional modem hardware, in order to detect ringback (used on analog lines to determine whether or not the call was even answered), CNG is often disabled. Furthermore, some fax senders (in particular fax *servers* - especially those used for fax spam) deliberately disable CNG to avoid annoying the receiver in the event that a number is misdialed.

We don't care about that fax spam, I know. However, fax spammers often use the same hardware and software that other people will use for non-spam purposes.

Lee.

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