Atis Lezdins wrote: > On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Andrew Joakimsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Tilghman Lesher >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> It is completely illegal in any country that recognizes patents. >>> >> You mean countries that recognize software patents, right? >> > > As resident of country where the file is hosted - yes we don't have > software patents, they have been proposed to EU and reject few years > ago. So by law - software is algorithm and can't be patented. > > In local laws we even are allowed to reverse-engineer software for > needs of compatibility and interoperability. So, writing code for > commercial codec and using it for interoperability with hardware > devices (you purchased) is allowed by law. > > Damn, we even have a law that don't allow bittorrent trackers, as > bittorrent file is considered breaking copyright law.. Ironic :p > > >> >>> Please do NOT discuss ways to use unlicensed codecs on this list or any >>> other forum >>> provided by Digium. This has been discussed multiple times as to why not, >>> and I don't feel like rehashing the argument again. >>> >> I did not know you were a moderator on this list. >> >> >>> contributory infringement >>> >> What if I make a page that explains the patent issues and then >> provide a link to http://asterisk.hosting.lv/ from that site and only >> provide people on this list a link to my site? What if I provide a >> link to the Google search for "asterisk g723?" Where do we draw the >> line? If that site is so illegal, why hasn't it been taken down? Why >> hasn't the patent holder at the very least provided Google with a DMCA >> notice? >> >> > > I guess because it's completely legal here, and there's a disclaimer on page: > DISCLAIMER: You might have to pay royalty fees to the G.729/723.1 > patent holders for using their algorithm. > > It all depends on country and laws. > There are a few algorithmic speedup patents around, what can accelerate codecs like G.729 and G.723.1, and which are purely software patents. Most of the relevant patents are *not* software patents. Don't confuse "software patent" with "something running on a computer".
Patents applicable to speech coding are perfectly valid in the vast majority of countries. Certainly in all the EU countries. Regards, Steve _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
