On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Steve Underwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Atis Lezdins wrote: >> On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 6:34 AM, Andrew Joakimsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 11:34 PM, Tilghman Lesher >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>>> It is completely illegal in any country that recognizes patents. >>>> >>> You mean countries that recognize software patents, right? >>> >> >> As resident of country where the file is hosted - yes we don't have >> software patents, they have been proposed to EU and reject few years >> ago. So by law - software is algorithm and can't be patented. >> >> In local laws we even are allowed to reverse-engineer software for >> needs of compatibility and interoperability. So, writing code for >> commercial codec and using it for interoperability with hardware >> devices (you purchased) is allowed by law. >> >> Damn, we even have a law that don't allow bittorrent trackers, as >> bittorrent file is considered breaking copyright law.. Ironic :p >> >> >>> >>>> Please do NOT discuss ways to use unlicensed codecs on this list or any >>>> other forum >>>> provided by Digium. This has been discussed multiple times as to why not, >>>> and I don't feel like rehashing the argument again. >>>> >>> I did not know you were a moderator on this list. >>> >>> >>>> contributory infringement >>>> >>> What if I make a page that explains the patent issues and then >>> provide a link to http://asterisk.hosting.lv/ from that site and only >>> provide people on this list a link to my site? What if I provide a >>> link to the Google search for "asterisk g723?" Where do we draw the >>> line? If that site is so illegal, why hasn't it been taken down? Why >>> hasn't the patent holder at the very least provided Google with a DMCA >>> notice? >>> >>> >> >> I guess because it's completely legal here, and there's a disclaimer on page: >> DISCLAIMER: You might have to pay royalty fees to the G.729/723.1 >> patent holders for using their algorithm. >> >> It all depends on country and laws. >> > There are a few algorithmic speedup patents around, what can accelerate > codecs like G.729 and G.723.1, and which are purely software patents. > Most of the relevant patents are *not* software patents. Don't confuse > "software patent" with "something running on a computer". > > Patents applicable to speech coding are perfectly valid in the vast > majority of countries. Certainly in all the EU countries.
It seems that this have been discussed numerous times. http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/2004-October/058136.html Does anybody have some more legal experence with this? Any courts? Negotiations? NDA? :p >From what i've found, there's an EU directive regarding software patents, but it's full of legal terms. Maybe anyone can comment? http://www.europarl.europa.eu/commonpositions/2005/pdf/c6-0058-05_en.pdf Regards, Atis -- Atis Lezdins, VoIP Project Manager / Developer, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Skype: atis.lezdins Cell Phone: +371 28806004 Cell Phone: +1 800 7300689 Work phone: +1 800 7502835 _______________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- AstriCon 2008 - September 22 - 25 Phoenix, Arizona Register Now: http://www.astricon.net asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
