2009/1/24 Matthew Fredrickson <[email protected]>

> Olivier wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > As you may know, these ISDN BRI features are very important here in
> > Europe as ISDN Basic Rate Access is very popular among Small & Medium
> > Entreprises.
> > I don't really know why but it seems that in many countries, default is
> > to install small PBX using Point-to-Multipoint (PtMP) mode as opposed to
> > Point-to-Point (PtP) which is the norm for PRI.
> >
> > So basically, in several countries, SME are equipped today with PBX
> > connected with TE/PtMP interfaces to telco BRI lines.
> > When we address those SME, my opinion is that it's very useful to be
> > able to support any combination of TE/NT, PtP/PtMP modes.
> >
> > Latest 1.6 Asterisk and 1.4.8 Libpri introduced a new set of welcomed
> > ISDN BRI features.
> > Unfortunately, NT/PtMP is not available at this time, in latest
> > Zaptel/Asterisk/Libpri.
> >
> > My question is "what is the policy concerning NT/PtMP ?"
> > Is it really hard to extend Libpri to support this mode ?
> > Or shall mISDN remain the way to go when NT/PtMP is needed ?
>
> Hey Olivier,
>
> I actually was the one that did a lot the work in adding the BRI support
> to libpri/chan_dahdi.


I know how  much we owe you for BRI support and lipri in general and I
really thank you for that.

>
>
> NT PTMP is very significantly different, in that you have to do much
> more from a TEI management perspective.
>
> Most people's needs that I saw were actually fulfilled in using either
> NT or TE PTP or TE PTMP, since they were interfacing with PBXs or using
> TE-PTMP trunks from the telephone network to provide voice trunks for
> Asterisk.


>From my point of view, the most important feature is TE-PTMP as this the one
used here (in France) when connecting a new Asterisk-based IPBX to ISDN (I
really don't know why TE-PTP is not used for that).

>From the same point of view, 2nd most needed feature is NT-PTMP when
connecting legacy PBX to Asterisk (for the very same reason, those PBX use
TE-PTMP).

If others could join this thread and say if they agree or not with NT-PTMP
being the 2nd most needed mode, would be great.
Please, do not hesitate to comment.

>
>
> Right now, I would not preclude the possibility that NT-PTMP support
> might be added, but I could not give you a concrete time at which it
> will be done, since it will probably require some significant internal
> changes in libpri.
>
> To answer your final question, for now, if you need NT-PTMP mode, you
> should use mISDN.


I'm afraid this  mISDN option is not very encouraging these days :
- misdn mailing list is not working these days (I'm hoping I'm wrong but it
seems to be the case),
- mISDN won't compile on latest 2.6.26 kernels so maybe mISDN developpers
are thinking B410P features inclusion in 1.6 sets a mark in Asterisk BRI
policy and it's not worth developing mISDN anymore.

So my opinion is that these NT-PTMP is really and urgently needed,
especially if this TEI management is rather complex and therefore would take
a long time to develop and stabilize.
The alternative is to keep using those Patton, Quintum, etc ... boxes which
is not what we would prefer ;-))

I don't want to be misunderstood while writing this memo :
- a very good job have been made lately in dahdi/libpri with "B410P
inclusion"
- if others are thinking NT-PTMP is needed or disagree with that, let them
say it here and now, as it might take a long time to integrate this feature

Regards



>
> Matthew Fredrickson
> Digium, Inc.
>
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