Be careful, telcos may make the users responsible if they have insecure 
PBXes...right now they often write off much of the charges.

But I do agree that there would be a lot less garbage on the net if everyone 
was liable for their insecurity. Heck, there would be no SIP attacks if 
everyone's systems were secure - there would be no gain in trying to exploit 
reasonably unexploitable systems.

On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:54 AM, jon pounder <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 11/01/2010 01:44 PM, Nyamul Hassan wrote:
> 
> 
> I think the only real solution here is to make people take more 
> responsibility for their actions
> - find and punish the actual abusers 
> - make users liable for damages caused by infected PC's - defaults from an 
> isp should be everything locked down but with user able to request more ports 
> being opened at no extra cost, if a user asks for it they then take on 
> responsibility for the use of that port.
> 
> 
> 
>> LOL
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 23:33, Cary Fitch <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I was going to point out a failing of the attackers, but figured they read 
>> the list and don’t need any more tips.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Cary Fitch
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: [email protected] 
>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zeeshan Zakaria
>> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2010 12:13 PM
>> 
>> 
>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] FW: Under heavy attack
>>  
>> 
>> And obviously these attackers read our emails on lists like this and adjust 
>> their sick strategies accordingly.
>> 
>> Zeeshan A Zakaria
>> 
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>> 
>>> On 2010-11-01 12:02 PM, "Jamie A. Stapleton" 
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Only 100?  We had a single server over 300.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: [email protected] 
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Zeeshan 
>>> Zakaria
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 9:49 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Under heavy attack
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> My count has reached 100 for the day. The server serves doesn't serve 
>>> international calls anywa...
>>> 
>>> Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Joel Maslak <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> No.  It seems that opening ...
>>> 
>>> 
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