On 09/25/2011 04:46 PM, jon pounder wrote:
Sometimes people get such swelled heads they need a slap back to
reality - I completely agree with him the changes were idiotic.
Obviously the comments touched a nerve with you or you would not have
replied.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011, Alex Balashov wrote:
I don't think very highly of the changes either. However, your approach
and Bruce's is not how to make the case to the developers.
Bruce was a dickish troll and he was right. The Asterisk CLI was bad in
1.2 and then veered into horrible.
Aside from that, is it really that big of a deal? Is it that hard to
learn a new command set and adapt?
Yes, it is.
I confess I'm a 1.2 Luddite so I have close to no experience with the
current CLI. Every time I start using a newer version I get about 3 or 4
commands into it and then I get sucked into the vortex of 'core or not
core,' what module implements this command?, oh the hell with it -- I'd be
done by now if I used 1.2.
Why should I have to know the name of the module before I can get help on
a command? Which rocket scientist decided that some perfectly reasonable
commands all of a sudden have to be prefaced with 'core' for no good
reason? Which module is named core? How 'intuitive' is this? How
'off-putting' is this to a new user? Why did previously maligned
designer(s) decide to ignore every other reasonably* designed CLI and
conclude that Asterisk's CLI must be 'different' and that obtuseness is a
virtue?
Overcoming the inertia to retrain my ancient fingers is one of the reasons
why I have not used a newer version in any of my new installs.
Yes, I could implement 'my own private Idaho' using CLI aliases but
doesn't that seem like a lot of work and rather silly? I suspect I'd loose
command completion in the process and I kind of like command completion.
I've ranted about this before and didn't get any traction so I'll crack
open another beer and be quiet now.
*) 'Reasonably' is defined herein as 'as would be designed by a reasonable
man**'
**) 'Reasonable man' is defined herein as 'me.'
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