--On Tuesday, October 12, 2004 20:32 +0200 Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

On Tue, 2004-10-12 at 20:23, Michael Loftis wrote:
Yup it's official, the box is now a brick thanks to the zaptel drivers.
What madness they're doing I have no idea, but the filesystems are all
pretty much corrupted, with the drives being totally fine, both sides of
the mirrored set which pretty much rules out the drives themselves.

I seriously doubt that the zaptel drivers caused this. Seems like an ext3 bug or some RAID hardware-kernel interaction related issue. I agree with Steven Critchfield on this one. Where is the proof accompanying your bold statement?

Lets see, the fact that this exact box, minus the Zaptel gear, has ran flawless for a year. I've used it as a log analyzer box in the recent past which means it did nothing but hammer on the drives for hours on end without any corruption. All the other code paths in this box are well tested. The fact that this same kernel runs on 15+ other boxes here, I've got two that are identical except the Zap stuff.


Now it could be an interaction, but whatever it is the root or atleast cause is pretty surely in the Zap drivers or in the hardware (hard to say which since the hardware isn't active without the drivers).

I've been trying to work this, went through I don't know how many motherboards before finally finding one that the finicky.

I'm going to work with what I've got and we do have a Supermicro P4SBR based system (just arrived today) but the experience here says that there is something of a gremlin lurking under the hood. Everyone here it seems wants to pass it off on 'get better hardware' but in my experience it's more likely that there's just something not quite right with the drivers or the hardware being installed when you get a lot of that going on. Or pass it off on anything but the Zap or Digium gear.

I don't want to use a new box for this, mostly because I have no idea if the box is stable or not on it's own. So far I've found two motherboards that the Zap hardware works in, one I can't use (it's my desktop) and the other I'm using for testing, every system it's been tried in is known true and has seen atleast a year of good service and been well burned in.

I'm just really concerned that what's been pawned off as 'cheap hardware problems' is really just a bad driver problem.

Anyway noone cares to listen to my clanging to I'll shut up.
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