Its obvious that Steve never looses, even when he's wrong, so arguing about it to him won't get anywhere.

As for g729, I was pleasantly surprised by the quality.

I may be old fashioned, but the purpose of my phone system is to communicate voice with other people, mostly in a business environment (low background noise). MY perception is that it works very well, much better than I had anticipated. In fact, it allowed me to drop a nice IP phone at one of my customers premises that have a less than stellar internet connection (ulaw was stutter city), with no outbound shaping.

I don't care about what anyone else says, I am impressed with g729 and if it weren't for 1) the cost of transcoding and 2) the lack of g729 on FreeBSD I'd be using it more.

Just my (humble) $0.02 CDN

Tim


Rusty Shackleford wrote:

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Underwood
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:40 PM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] G729 vs. gsm

Well, it does to anyone without hearing damage. It sounds very obviously different.

Different, yes, but to what degree is an entirely subjective judgement.
Ergo, your judgement of "...very obviously different..." is valid only
for you.


Please do not get me wrong that G711u sounds better through the
PSTN.
Thats a given! You can't convert G729 up and down to G711 and expect

the sound quality to be there.

This is meaningless drivel.

Hardly. Each conversion introduces the equivalent of "gen loss". Two
such conversions are easily encountered, especially when dealing with a
third-party network, and will produce (in MY subjective opinion)
positively crappy sound.

Since it doesn't correlate with the impression of even the developers of G.729, it *is* bad information. Realistic people know G.729 will be worse. What they need is meaningful guidance as to just how much.

Yes, and your guidance is oh-so-meaningful. <roll eyes>

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