Jim, I entirely agree but there are no royalties for broadcast or
streaming, the station pays the royalties every time they play a CD or
Record
The copyright (by definition) applies to copying the media. Any payment
to this organization would be completely useless who do they remit ?
my radio station doesn't want the money and the record companies have
already been paid. So my guess is they keep most of the money.
If I send them $98 so I can stream a radio station which may not even
be in this country, are they going to send my money back saying I don't
need to get their
permission? ....I don't think so.
I remember 30 odd years ago, the music industry want to ban the
selling of blank audio cassettes because people could record
music for free and play it back later !. Of course they lost that
battle, but the original audio cassette (designed by Phillips) was
developed adding Dolby and improving magnetic tape formulations to the
point where it was a good as the "reel to reel" tape recorder. Without
this development the HD in a computer could hold no more that a meg or
two of storage.
You use the word "should" get permission... who says ?
What legal or ethical rules am I breaking ?
Who is being hurt by my actions ?
Who is loosing revenue by my actions ?
Lets take a look behind the green curtain... ( "Wizard of Oz")
Take care ....Henry
Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
It's not so much a matter of sending anyone money as knowing what you may be
held liable for.
I may not feel any moral obligation to send money for playing music on hold,
but that does not mean that I don't want to be well-informed on the matter,
so that I can correctly advise my customers.
Leaving the "legal stuff" to "the people who know" does not sound like a
solid strategy to me. By the time they get involved, it's often too late.
Ignorance of the law is not innocence.
We can (and perhaps even should) be willing to debate our various opinions
on the matter, but the fact remains that you, your customers, and anyone
else who wishes to play music on hold is expected by SOCAN, who represents
the copyright holders, to pay royalties.
Whether we SHOULD or not is an entirely different matter, ripe for debate.
Jim.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 9, 2006 12:50 PM
To: TAUG
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Music libaray
If you want to send money to some organization to avoid being
prosecuted for "Illegal use of an unregistered Music on
Hold" then go ahead.
But who is going to ?
If the station itself tells me that it's fine that's good
enough for me!
With a radio broadcast there is the expectation that it will
be freely available to the general public.
otherwise I would have to get a licence from the radio
station before I turned on my radio at the beach ( just in
case someone might overhear it ).
So lets get real...The advertisers pay the radio stations to
reach the
public. MOH does this( in a very small way).
Lets leave this legal stuff to the people who know.
Henry
John Lange wrote:
It should be pointed out that whether you are using a radio or or a
streaming music source, NEITHER of these methods is "royalty
free". You
must buy a license from SOCAN. The stations themselves may also
prohibit this use.
http://www.socan.ca/
Of course this also applies to playing CDs.
The last time I checked the licenses are cheap though.
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