why not just stream a couple radio stations into the box for moh?
Mike Ashton wrote:
Okay,
With all the active talk on the list, I talked with my son, who works
at a musical artist management company. And he said you basically have
a few legal choices, pay your fees to SOCAN, who have cross agreements
with other similar bodies in about 70 countries, use a service like
Musak, get an exception from SOCAN which requires getting signed
releases which sounded just to damn complicated or use Public Domain
music.
Public Domain Music was new to me.
He said that basically if a composer had been dead for fifty years
(SOCAN is only interested in protecting the composer and the artist
which rights are enforceable) and the recording was made by them, it
moved into the public domain. Now the laws vary country by country, 50
in Canada, and in the US they are trying to push this out further to
75 years ( legislation backed by the Presley Estate so they can keep
their royalties coming).
So take a look at some great early blues and jazz from the 20's to
compile for a MOH loop from:
http://www.publicdomain4u.com/
http://www.mp34u.com/sourceHome.php?source=37
Choral
http://www.cpdl.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Just another tidbit for the list.
Mike
Jim Van Meggelen wrote:
It's not so much a matter of sending anyone money as knowing what you may be
held liable for.
I may not feel any moral obligation to send money for playing music on
hold,record
but that does not mean that I don't want to be well-informed on the matter,
so that I can correctly advise my customers.
Leaving the "legal stuff" to "the people who know" does not sound like a
solid strategy to me. By the time they get involved, it's often too late.
Ignorance of the law is not innocence.
We can (and perhaps even should) be willing to debate our various opinions
on the matter, but the fact remains that you, your customers, and anyone
else who wishes to play music on hold is expected by SOCAN, who represents
the copyright holders, to pay royalties.
Whether we SHOULD or not is an entirely different matter, ripe for debate.
Jim.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Henry Coleman [VoIP-PBX.ca] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: February 9, 2006 12:50 PM
To: TAUG
Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Music libaray
If you want to send money to some organization to avoid being
prosecuted for "Illegal use of an unregistered Music on
Hold" then go ahead.
But who is going to ?
If the station itself tells me that it's fine that's good
enough for me!
With a radio broadcast there is the expectation that it will
be freely available to the general public.
otherwise I would have to get a licence from the radio
station before I turned on my radio at the beach ( just in
case someone might overhear it ).
So lets get real...The advertisers pay the radio stations to
reach the
public. MOH does this( in a very small way).
Lets leave this legal stuff to the people who know.
Henry
John Lange wrote:
It should be pointed out that whether you are using a radio or or a
streaming music source, NEITHER of these methods is "royalty
free". You
must buy a license from SOCAN. The stations themselves may also
prohibit this use.
http://www.socan.ca/
Of course this also applies to playing CDs.
The last time I checked the licenses are cheap though.
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