I know this flies in the face of the "less gear" mantra, but if you have
a proper presentation mic, audience mic, mixer & 2 channel compressor
you will eliminate the need for post-production. (Compressor is the
most important piece of gear for this type of setup).

I am a hardware side guy using a 32 track desk and processing gear but
maybe we could find some DAW software that would do this on a laptop 
with USB input?

dbc.
--
David Cook


Quoting Fulko Hew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On 3/27/07, Dave Donovan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If I understand correctly, there are 3 barriers to making this
> happen
> > consistently for each meeting:
> >
> > 1)  Equipment: wireless body mics, maybe a small mixer or
> multichannel
> > recorder.  Remember that these presentations are often interactive
> and to
> > make it useful, it helps to record the audience questions and
> input.  I
> > video taped one, but the lighting and acoustics in the large
> council chamber
> > made the tape pretty useless.  Besides, video of a presenter
> pointing out of
> > frame wasn't very meaningful.
>
> I've been doing this now for the Toronto Perl Mongers for about 3
> years now.
> (even though I haven't gotten around to publishing some recordings
> for almost a year.)
>
> I've tried a few setups, and I'm sure our acoustic environment is
> different,
> but, here are my experiences....
>
> I started with a cheap  < $10 plastic lapel mic from Future Shop
> (something
> they sold for people who were trying VoIP/gaming style stuff from
> their PCs).
> I plugged that into my laptop. Oh... with 25 feet of extra wire in
> between, and
> I use Audacity to record it.  I've found that the lapel mic I have is
> good enough
> to also pick up the audience questions (in our room), and with a
> little bit of
> post-processing, I can bump the audience up to intellegible levels.
>
> > 2)  Someone to show up consistently with the equipment, set it up,
> make the
> > recording and pack up the equipment at the end of the night.  The
> trouble is
> > there there aren't too many people who make it to _every_ meeting
> and so
> > getting the equipment to show up every time can take some planning.
>
> Yup.  This is the biggest problem.  So I've only missed 1 meeting in
> the past 3 years.  :-(
> Well, OK 2 meetings.  And at that time, a friend with a FLASH based
> audio
> recorder, recorded the meeting for me.  (But he lugged in a mixer,
> the recorder,
> 2 mics, balanced cables, etc.)
>
> I tried a cheap FM wireless setup, but in downtown Toronto
> (Young/Bloor),
> It didn't work well enough.  It only had a usable range of < 10 feet
> (even though
> out in the country I could get 30+ feet.  And I wasn't going to go
> out
> an buy a 'real'
> wireless setup, so I stayed with the cheap lapel mic.
>
> I wanted to (and still do) have another mic for audience questions,
> but 99%
> of all laptops only have a mono-mic level input, and I don't want to
> carry around extra gear.  I've looked for USB and Firewire input
> stages,
> but they are either too expensive, or line-level only neccessitating
> an external
> mixer, and then I'm back to having too much gear.  And I haven't had
> the
> time to design/build my own (2 chanel USB mic level input device).
>
> > 3) Post production.  There is a non-trivial amount of work involved
> in
> > getting the slideshow lined up with the audio track, and producing
> the
> > Podcast so that it's fit for general consumption.
>
> This is the biggest issue.
>
> I decided not to try to produce an audio/video podcast.
> The slides if provided are available seperately, and you can't
> see what might be done on the white-board, but you can read along.
>
> I've only had one person say, they wanted to see an A/V production.
> Most people seem to be happy just to have even the audio!
>
> As for audio post-production, thats what takes up most of my time,
> and why I haven't released anything lately....
>
> For every meeting, I have to find the time, to listen to the whole
> thing
> again, trimming the front and the back.  Bumping up the levels on the
> audience questions.  Sometimes taking out un-acceptable content.
> Deleting umms, coughs, etc. where I can.
>
> And then I also have intro/exit music with voice-over.
>
> Then there's also the upload to the server, and updating the
> web page and RSS feed files (but thats trivial in the big picture).
>
> So post-production of a 1.5 hour meeting is usually another 3 hours
> of work.
>
> > The last part is where the out-of-towners could pitch in.  I
> suppose it
> > could be as simple as this:
> > Let's say we came up with a good wireless body mic for the
> presenter and
> > some kind of fairly omni mic for the crowd.  They're both mono
> sources so
> > one could be piped in to the left channel and the other could be
> piped into
> > the right channel (basic multi-channel, avoids a mixer).
>
> Yup, If you have the multi-channel (mic level) audio input device.
> Let me know if you find one.
>
> > Using Audacity,
> > the post-production team could mute and unmute the audience channel
> as
> > needed to allow for audience input and snip out the irrelevant
> parts to make
> > it flow.  Mix it back into one channel to prevent our listeners
> from getting
> > nauseous and that's it for Audio.  I don't know what the Podcast
> team used,
> > but there is some software to tie the powerpoint presentation into
> the audio
> > and produce a podcast.  Presto.
> >
> > We just need a group of individuals to commit to a component of the
> plan and
> > it can happen.  It's been discussed on a few occasions and
> different people
> > have come forward at various times but it is time consuming and it
> doesn't
> > seem to materialize consistently.
> >
> > That's my understanding of where it's at.  If someone wants to take
> the
> > reigns and muster the hardware and people, it can happen.
> >
>
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