Hit front page of Digg this morning...

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080720-rogers-latest-isp-to-help-customers-with-dns-redirects.html

-----Original Message-----
From: Ansar Mohammed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July-20-08 5:22 PM
To: Chuck Mariotti; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers... Umm... holy crap!

Well, its not geared for the technically inclined. If you want a proper ISP 
service, then get one from teksavvy. I have my own /240 subnet from them and no 
"creative firewalling" like bell and rogers does.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Mariotti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July 20, 2008 4:25 PM
> To: Michael Potocki; Syd Carter
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [on-asterisk] Rogers... Umm... holy crap!
>
> Thank god... I thought I was nuts. Seemed like no one cares for a while
> there...
>
> I think this is a rotten service. The worst kind.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Potocki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: July-20-08 1:54 PM
> To: Syd Carter
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Rogers... Umm... holy crap!
>
> You guys are not the only one seeing this...other people are talking
>
> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/19/158208&from=rss
>
> Michael
>
>
> Syd Carter wrote:
> > Not to plug OpenDNS however should you decide to switch your DNS
> entry
> > to their servers then it offers a number of features that you may
> > appreciate.  Such as, it will redirect 404s, allow you to create
> > shortcuts (ie: ast versus 1.9.168.0.100/admin ), and do some
> statistical
> > analysis.  OpenDNS also states that you will get faster look-ups.
> I've
> > tried it.  It was fun when my kids asked me why a picture of them
> came
> > up on the screen at times when they were surfing the internet (404
> > redirect).
> >
> > Mike Ashton wrote:
> >> In your router alter your DNS servers to OpenDNS ( www.opendns.com
> ).
> >> They have multiple geographical DNS servers. They are a third part
> DNS
> >> service and are free. I have all clients, friends and workers
> >> configure to their servers. They honour TLS not like Rogers who
> ignore
> >> it.
> >>
> >> 208.67.222.222
> >> 208.67.220.220
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >> David Cook wrote:
> >>> You are using Rogers service, so by default you are using Rogers
> DNS.
> >>> Their DNS can redirect 404's anywhere they like for your "benefit".
> >>> They are doing their very best to "serve" you as a customer. Don't
> >>> you like that they tried to help you out?
> >>>
> >>> Oh yeah, there might be a possibility that they gain some
> commercial
> >>> benefit but I'm sure that is secondary to their desire to offer top
> >>> quality service to their customers.
> >>>
> >>> </sarcasm>
> >>> You could probably use someone else's DNS but that is inconvenient
> >>> and by definition slower because packets would have to leave Rogers
> >>> network in order to get name resolution. Some also consider this a
> >>> little in bad taste to hit someone else's server when you aren't
> >>> their customer.
> >>>
> >>> I tried long and hard and found a great ISP that is happy to sell
> me
> >>> the pipe only. No crap. No redirections. And "yes" they permit you
> to
> >>> run server services on your home DSL connection. Good companies are
> >>> out there. You just have to do the digging yourself instead of
> >>> waiting for TV/Radio spots to catch our attention.
> >>>
> >>> After all, most of us are very happy with VoIP service from
> >>> Unlimitel. If they did all the marketing that Vonage does, they
> >>> wouldn't be the quality they are at the price point they are at.
> >>>
> >>> I had my own beef with Rogers. I started getting spam to the email
> >>> address I signed up to Rogers billing. I use unique addresses for
> >>> every company I sign up with so if spam starts coming, I know who
> >>> sold/leaked their list or had a security breach. I contacted Rogers
> >>> Security & their Ombudsman and haven't even had the decency of a
> reply.
> >>>
> >>> - dbc.
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Chuck Mariotti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: July-18-08
> >>> 10:41 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: [on-asterisk] Rogers... Umm... holy crap!
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, this is somewhat unrelated, but as Simon said, it's for
> >>> Asterisk enthusiasts... and what ever is related that might
> interest.
> >>>
> >>> I use Rogers... Like everyone else, I never install anything the
> ISP
> >>> gives me on my computers. Never. For many reasons. Crappy anti-
> virus,
> >>> crappy tools, etc... I am their customer, not their point of
> branding.
> >>>
> >>> Anyways, I was looking at Aastra's web site today, changed the url
> >>> but did a bad copy paste job... and by mistake. I entered in the
> >>> following:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.aastra.css
> >>>
> >>> Ooops... I should get 404 type error. I see it flash on by, and
> what
> >>> do I get?
> >>>
> >>> I get Roger's branded Search results. Did I mean alastra?
> >>>
> >>> I got redirected to Roger's web page!
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www20.search.rogers.com/search?qo=www.aastra.ccc&rn=TSAKtsJmKhU9
> u40
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Holly crapola.
> >>>
> >>> Does it in Firefox, does it on other computers in my network.
> >>>
> >>> Co-worker is using rogers, but not doing it for him.
> >>>
> >>> This just started today...
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone else have a problem with this? I mean, this is worse
> than
> >>> traffic shaping as far as I am concerned.
> >>>
> >>> Get off my internet Rogers!
> >>>
> >>> Someone please tell me it's something I've done wrong and I can
> turn
> >>> it off.
> >>>
> >>>
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