Eric,

Thank you for your reply. I agree with your statement. I do not know even
what is he is talking about. Leave it for now.

I am trying  to find the good reliable internet without go for a Ethernet or
T1. Right now I am using 2 DSL Connection with the Tomato Firmware 1.22.


Thank you
Lloyd


On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:29 PM, Erik (Caneris) <[email protected]>wrote:

> No offence, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
>
> -There's no such thing as a "DSL switch"
> -ATM vs. Ethernet aggregation of xSLAMs in Bell's network bears practically
> no relevance on anything being discussed and has next to no impact on
> end-user aspects
> -They don't do "24M downstream and 1M upstream by default"
> -They will have no clue what Lloyd is talking about if he follows your
> recommendation and "calls Bell" to ask whether there is a "GigE based DSL
> switch in Kelle [sic] and Steels area". The mindless offshored drones at
> 310-WHATEVER will not get past the "GigE" part. Good luck reaching someone
> with a clue. Besides, having a piece of non-existent equipment in an
> off-premise location isn't the only pre-requisite to being able to provide
> DSL service to a particular location. You need the right loop
> conditions/length, capacity everywhere, and everything in between and
> beyond, just to name a few factors. If he does call, he should be asking
> whether his exact location qualifies for DSL and for what approximate ("up
> to") speeds, not whether there is "GigE based DSL switch in Kelle [sic] and
> Steels area". Even then, not to sound too negative, but with DSL until an
> order is completed and service is working, it's a total gamble as far as
> availability and speeds are concerned.
> -No, they won't give you 2M upstream on anything, even if you ask nicely.
> I'll leave it as an exercise to you to figure out why.
>
> Lloyd, the service you're referring to is simply DSL (ADSL2+ actually) from
> Bell. As with any DSL ISP, your mileage may vary, largely on local loop
> conditions. Internet-wise, Bell doesn't peer with anyone in Canada, so that
> may or may not be a factor for you to consider. Suggest you try them out for
> a bit without entering a long term contract. Once tired of them, visit
> www.canadianisp.ca for alternate options. There are a handful of ISPs with
> a clue, in the Toronto area alone, who will be happy to serve you - you will
> find some of them listed on there and some lurking around on the list here.
> Shop/ask around.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Erik
> Caneris
> Tel: 647-723-6365
> Fax: 647-723-5365
> Toll-free: 1-866-827-0021
> www.caneris.com
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TianLun Song [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: January 28, 2009 13:17
> > To: Bruce N
> > Cc: [email protected]; asterisk Mailing
> > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] BELL Business Internet Optimax™ and VOIP
> >
> > I dont have any experience about Bell Optimax Internet
> > service. but from the
> > service description on Bell's website, I think this service
> > is offered on
> > Bell's New DSL switch because Bell just did a lot of
> > migration work on their
> > old DSL switch (ATM based uplink to Bell's Network) to new
> > DSL switch (GigE
> > based uplink to Bell's Network). If this is the case, the
> > ADSL Line card on
> > the new switch offers 24M downstream and 1M upstream by
> > default and it can
> > be turned to 24M down and 2M up using AnnexM.
> >
> > So, when you call Bell about this service, you can ask two
> > things before
> > ordering
> >
> > 1. If Bell has GigE based DSL switch in Kelle and Steels area
> > 2. If Bell is able to turn 1M to 2M upstream for you on the
> > ADSL port going
> > to you location
> >
> > Hope it helps
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I think there was a thread about Bell Optimax and Rogers
> > Portable internet
> > > that block VOIP (just incise that's what you intend to use
> > it for). I have
> > > experienced Roger Portable service and there are lots of
> > indoor area where
> > > it can't penetrate. It should be mounted to a glass Windows
> > facing to open
> > > area.
> > >
> > > -Bruce> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:00:04 -0500> From:
> > > [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject:
> > [on-asterisk] BELL
> > > Business Internet Optimax™ and VOIP> > Hello,> > Any one
> > using Business
> > > Internet Optimax™ for VOIP? Can you share your>
> > experience?> > Thank you>
> > > Lloyd
> > > _________________________________________________________________
> > > How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better.
> > > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Patrick Song
> > Thinking globally, Networking locally
> > CCVP, CCNP, M.Eng
> > Cell:1-647-868-2950
> >
>

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