Yes, bottom line is you have to ask if your location can have DSL service
and it's not until it is actually provisioned and working that you will have
any idea what the download speed is.
Remember, this is all happening on a twisted cable pair designed to handle audio
300-3300cps
Don't get too excited !:)

H

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 Henry L.Coleman [www.VoIP-PBX.ca]
 Tel: 647-723-5160 Ext.203
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{ Erik (Caneris)}
> No offence, but you have no idea what you're talking about.
>
> -There's no such thing as a "DSL switch"
> -ATM vs. Ethernet aggregation of xSLAMs in Bell's network bears practically 
> no relevance on anything being
> discussed and has next to no impact on end-user aspects
> -They don't do "24M downstream and 1M upstream by default"
> -They will have no clue what Lloyd is talking about if he follows your 
> recommendation and "calls Bell" to
> ask whether there is a "GigE based DSL switch in Kelle [sic] and Steels 
> area". The mindless offshored
> drones at 310-WHATEVER will not get past the "GigE" part. Good luck reaching 
> someone with a clue. Besides,
> having a piece of non-existent equipment in an off-premise location isn't the 
> only pre-requisite to being
> able to provide DSL service to a particular location. You need the right loop 
> conditions/length, capacity
> everywhere, and everything in between and beyond, just to name a few factors. 
> If he does call, he should
> be asking whether his exact location qualifies for DSL and for what 
> approximate ("up to") speeds, not
> whether there is "GigE based DSL switch in Kelle [sic] and Steels area". Even 
> then, not to sound too
> negative, but with DSL until an order is completed and service is working, 
> it's a total gamble as far as
> availability and speeds are concerned.
> -No, they won't give you 2M upstream on anything, even if you ask nicely. 
> I'll leave it as an exercise to
> you to figure out why.
>
> Lloyd, the service you're referring to is simply DSL (ADSL2+ actually) from 
> Bell. As with any DSL ISP,
> your mileage may vary, largely on local loop conditions. Internet-wise, Bell 
> doesn't peer with anyone in
> Canada, so that may or may not be a factor for you to consider. Suggest you 
> try them out for a bit without
> entering a long term contract. Once tired of them, visit www.canadianisp.ca 
> for alternate options. There
> are a handful of ISPs with a clue, in the Toronto area alone, who will be 
> happy to serve you - you will
> find some of them listed on there and some lurking around on the list here. 
> Shop/ask around.
>
> Regards,
> --
> Erik
> Caneris
> Tel: 647-723-6365
> Fax: 647-723-5365
> Toll-free: 1-866-827-0021
> www.caneris.com
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TianLun Song [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: January 28, 2009 13:17
>> To: Bruce N
>> Cc: [email protected]; asterisk Mailing
>> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] BELL Business Internet Optimax™ and VOIP
>>
>> I dont have any experience about Bell Optimax Internet
>> service. but from the
>> service description on Bell's website, I think this service
>> is offered on
>> Bell's New DSL switch because Bell just did a lot of
>> migration work on their
>> old DSL switch (ATM based uplink to Bell's Network) to new
>> DSL switch (GigE
>> based uplink to Bell's Network). If this is the case, the
>> ADSL Line card on
>> the new switch offers 24M downstream and 1M upstream by
>> default and it can
>> be turned to 24M down and 2M up using AnnexM.
>>
>> So, when you call Bell about this service, you can ask two
>> things before
>> ordering
>>
>> 1. If Bell has GigE based DSL switch in Kelle and Steels area
>> 2. If Bell is able to turn 1M to 2M upstream for you on the
>> ADSL port going
>> to you location
>>
>> Hope it helps
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > I think there was a thread about Bell Optimax and Rogers
>> Portable internet
>> > that block VOIP (just incise that's what you intend to use
>> it for). I have
>> > experienced Roger Portable service and there are lots of
>> indoor area where
>> > it can't penetrate. It should be mounted to a glass Windows
>> facing to open
>> > area.
>> >
>> > -Bruce> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 01:00:04 -0500> From:
>> > [email protected]> To: [email protected]> Subject:
>> [on-asterisk] BELL
>> > Business Internet Optimax™ and VOIP> > Hello,> > Any one
>> using Business
>> > Internet Optimax™ for VOIP? Can you share your>
>> experience?> > Thank you>
>> > Lloyd
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better.
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Song
>> Thinking globally, Networking locally
>> CCVP, CCNP, M.Eng
>> Cell:1-647-868-2950
>>
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