Bill, What percentage of your total cost does the copper loop represent per subscriber?
Thanks, Stephan Monette Unlimitel Inc. Tel.: 1-877-464-6638 Fax: (613) 482-1077 On 2010-12-22, at 1:32 PM, Bill Sandiford wrote: > John: > > We are only moving ahead with additional CO collocates under very specific > circumstances. > > 1) We already have a sufficient volume of customers from that CO to justify > the expense. > 2) Backhaul can be obtained affordably > 3) Any other tangible benefits from that CO that could be of value to us as > a CLEC > > With regards to your point 2 at the bottom, we don't pay the ILEC to get out > of the CO in any of our CO collocates and in one case we build our own dark > fibre. In that case the "cable management fees" that you refer to were very > affordable. > > Bill > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: John Lange [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2010 1:23 PM >> To: Bill Sandiford >> Cc: TAUG Technical >> Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Asterisk & 1 Gigabit Internet. >> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 10:57 AM, Bill Sandiford >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> The big cost is the exorbitant fees they charge just to setup your >> colo area. >> >> You could file a Part VII with the CRTC requesting that they review >> and vary the charges. Have any competitive DSL providers tried that? >> Problem is all the costing is submitted to the CRTC in secret so it's >> pretty hard to challenge anything. >> >>> As for your last point, yes you are correct. That is what I was >> talking about when I referred to only being able to reach approximately >> 25% of our target market from the CO. >> >> I'm surprised to hear that you are moving ahead with co-lo DSLAM given >> that percentage of customers will continue to decline. Is there >> something in place that will allow you access to the pedestal in the >> future? Bell could turn around tomorrow and convert all their peds to >> DSLAMs with fibre and you'd be screwed. >> >> Co-Lo DSLAM (along with Third Party Access for cable & DSL) was the >> CRTC's original vision for competition in broadband. Largely it has >> failed for the following reasons: >> >> 1) CRTC allowed the ILECs & Cable Co's to set the above mentioned >> insane setup and co-lo charges. This might not have been a show >> stopper if companies were able to get foreign investment but alas, >> Canada does not allow it. >> >> 2) Even if you do invest in a co-lo DSLAM, the only way to get the >> traffic out is to buy access from the ILEC and this is unregulated. >> Even if you ran your own fibre, you still have to pay insane monthly >> "cable management" fees. On top of that, in most places in the country >> there are only 2 ways to the internet, the ILEC or the Cable co. so >> you pay them again. >> >> It's an impossible business model which is why virtually nobody is >> doing it. >> >> -- >> John Lange >> www.johnlange.ca > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
