Most local loops are own by Bell and then Bell wholesale them to CLEC. Bell charge CLEC for circuit and CLEC charge end customers for service and traffic
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks for the great feedback Andrew, Patrick, and James. > > > So, now my understanding is that it's hard or impossible to get > point-to-point copper pair (dry loop) and even if possible a 10Mbps can't be > pushed through it with any economical technology. > > > Unfortunately there is no line of sight at all. Probably Metro Ethernet is > going to be the choice. However, I wonder how that is delivered anyhow when > All Stream does it (called SwitchE) - Don't they also use Bells copper wire > to do this? > > > I have two more questions though: > 1- What about companies like TekSavvy? I understand they purchase DSLAM > space in most COs? > 2- I am looking through Bell's CRTC tariffs and hard to pin point the > start-up costs for obtaining DLSAM service etc... > > > Can someone with knowledge please shed some light. > > > Thanks again, > Bruce > > > > > Regards, > Bruce > > > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:20:00 -0400 > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Can I get Point to Point copper OR similar > work-around > > > > Bruce N wrote: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > > > > > > Can a dry loop be ordered for point to point access. Let's say between > North York and Down Town Toronto? Aim is to create a private network or heck > even take advantage of the fast internet service available at 151 Front > Street. > > > > > > > > > I understand that there are limitations to DSL technology with distance > but won't the repeaters in between solve that issue? > > > > > > > > > Furthermore, by this request am I looking into something like DSLAM > hire from Bell facility? If so, can you guide to CRTC approved tariffs for > it? > > > > > > > > > Thanks a bunch, > > > Bruce > > > > > Not likely. You can at best get a pair to your central office. Years > > ago, copper pairs were commonly used for DS1 (T1) circuits at 1.544 Mb/s > > (1.536 usable) and they needed repeaters about every 6000' IIRC. If you > > want to go faster than that, you'd need fibre and you'd also be talking > > about lots of money. If you have line of site, you can set up a short > > haul microwave link. These are available in both licenced and > > unlicenced bands. The greatest distance I've covered on short haul > > microwave is from American Dr. & Viscount Rd., in Malton to West Drive & > > Clark Blvd. in Brampton with a licenced system, but the equipment used > > was capable of about 40 Km. Again, you're talking a lot of money. > > Unlicenced systems can be cheaper, but also have much shorter range. > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > -- Thank you Patrick Song CCIE #28023, CCVP M.Eng in Telecommunications Cell:1-647-868-2950
