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On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Thanks again.
> Since the bandwidth requirement raised in this case it seems that the
> requirement would be for Fiber. I think that is what everyone is referring
> as Metro LAN, Metro Switch, Switch Ethernet......
> Can someone please recommend companies that do Fiber point-to-point.
> Connecting Mississauga to 151 Front Street W.
> Thanks,Bruce
>
> > Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 19:28:13 -0400
> > From: [email protected]
> > To: [email protected]
> > CC: [email protected]; [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Can I get Point to Point copper OR similar
> work-around
> >
> > Most local loops are own by Bell and then Bell wholesale them to CLEC.
> Bell
> > charge CLEC for circuit and CLEC charge end customers for service and
> > traffic
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Bruce N <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Thanks for the great feedback Andrew, Patrick, and James.
> > >
> > >
> > > So, now my understanding is that it's hard or impossible to get
> > > point-to-point copper pair (dry loop) and even if possible a 10Mbps
> can't be
> > > pushed through it with any economical technology.
> > >
> > >
> > > Unfortunately there is no line of sight at all. Probably Metro Ethernet
> is
> > > going to be the choice. However, I wonder how that is delivered anyhow
> when
> > > All Stream does it (called SwitchE) - Don't they also use Bells copper
> wire
> > > to do this?
> > >
> > >
> > > I have two more questions though:
> > > 1- What about companies like TekSavvy? I understand they purchase DSLAM
> > > space in most COs?
> > > 2- I am looking through Bell's CRTC tariffs and hard to pin point the
> > > start-up costs for obtaining DLSAM service etc...
> > >
> > >
> > > Can someone with knowledge please shed some light.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > >
> > > > Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 16:20:00 -0400
> > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [on-asterisk] Can I get Point to Point copper OR similar
> > > work-around
> > > >
> > > > Bruce N wrote:
> > > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Can a dry loop be ordered for point to point access. Let's say
> between
> > > North York and Down Town Toronto? Aim is to create a private network or
> heck
> > > even take advantage of the fast internet service available at 151 Front
> > > Street.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I understand that there are limitations to DSL technology with
> distance
> > > but won't the repeaters in between solve that issue?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Furthermore, by this request am I looking into something like DSLAM
> > > hire from Bell facility? If so, can you guide to CRTC approved tariffs
> for
> > > it?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks a bunch,
> > > > > Bruce
> > > > >
> > > > Not likely. You can at best get a pair to your central office. Years
> > > > ago, copper pairs were commonly used for DS1 (T1) circuits at 1.544
> Mb/s
> > > > (1.536 usable) and they needed repeaters about every 6000' IIRC. If
> you
> > > > want to go faster than that, you'd need fibre and you'd also be
> talking
> > > > about lots of money. If you have line of site, you can set up a short
> > > > haul microwave link. These are available in both licenced and
> > > > unlicenced bands. The greatest distance I've covered on short haul
> > > > microwave is from American Dr. & Viscount Rd., in Malton to West
> Drive &
> > > > Clark Blvd. in Brampton with a licenced system, but the equipment
> used
> > > > was capable of about 40 Km. Again, you're talking a lot of money.
> > > > Unlicenced systems can be cheaper, but also have much shorter range.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thank you
> >
> > Patrick Song
> >
> > CCIE #28023, CCVP
> > M.Eng in Telecommunications
> > Cell:1-647-868-2950
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>



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M.Eng in Telecommunications
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