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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:02:08 +0100
> From: David Caldwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Astlinux-users] Bad echo on incoming calls on Zap trunk
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Hi all,
>   
>   I'm trying to improve echo for all incoming calls that come 
> into  Asterisk via PTSN onto a TDM400 card and then on to a 
> SIP phone. The  echo starts off quite loud with about 1/2 
> second delay and after 10 to  20 seconds it is cancelled. 
> I've tried altering various settings in  
> /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf but cannot seem to improve the echo 
> situation  beyond what I've described above. My echo settings 
> are currently set  like this:
>   
>   echotraining=yes
>   echocancelwhenbridged=yes
>   echocancel=256
>   
>   I read somewhere that 'echocancel' increases in powers of 2 
> like binary  (ie: 32, 64, 128, 256, etc) - is this correct? 
> Am I being too  idealistic by wanting less echo than what 
> I've described above? How has  everyone else got their echo 
> cancelling set? Is there anything else I  can try?
>   
>   Other than playing with the above variables, I've tried a 
> couple of different handsets without improvement.
>   
>   Many thanks,
>   
>   David.

I am no expert by any means but I do know from personal experience that you
can and probably will drive yourself insane messing with those settings and
using others suggestions, messing with cable lengths, server location, etc.
or considering other factors such as phases of the moon, current events,
your astroligical sign.

EVERY physical location with wired PSTN has different signal levels,
impedance, loop length back to the telco central office etc. and therefore
EVERY physical location is different.  What works at one location for one
person does not apply to another location.  Depends on a lot of things and
the software echo can is often not adequate enough to deal with it.  There
is plenty of evidence to support that conclusion past and present.  There
has been a lot of effort to improve the software echo cans but no matter how
brilliant the code/algorithms they will NEVER be as good as hardware.  That
is a technical fact.  Echo is an analog phenomenon.  Infinitely variable and
instantaneously changing.

IMHO, if you have the budget, save yourself the headaches and get yourself a
TDM card with hardware echo can.  It will eliminate all echo and improve
your overall sound quality.  I seriously doubt it has anything to do with
your analog cable length unless that length is ridiculously long or unless
you have a bad connection that is throwing your signal/impedance way out
(not likely).
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