Can you add a GPS RX to the system? If so then you can create your own
Stratum 1 server by adding the GPSD package then adding the following 2
lines to your ntp.conf file

server 127.127.28.0 minpoll 4 maxpoll 4 prefer
fudge 127.127.28.0 time1 0.150 refid GPS

The GPSD package makes the NMEA GPS sentances available on port 2947 (?)
as well as a shared memory location. The NTP package collects the NMEA
time stamp and does it's thing.

You then have NMEA GPS data available across the network as well as a
Stratum 1 time server for general network use.

Have fun.

Mark 

On Wed, 2008-02-20 at 08:56 -0600, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 1:02 AM, Michael Knill wrote:
> 
> > I have a site with no internet and hense no ntp and I want the  
> > phones to synchronise with the server RTC.
> > My understanding is that ntpd cannot act as a server unless it is  
> > synchronised with a server itself.
> >
> > I have read that this can be fudged in ntp.conf using:
> >
> > # local clock
> > server 127.127.1.1 prefer
> > # Not disciplined
> > fudge 127.127.1.1 stratum 0 refid NIST
> >
> > But can it be used in ntpd.conf also?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Mike
> 
> Mike,
> 
> udel.edu NTP is offered as a custom build option in the current  
> astlinux-trunk.  By default, OpenNTPd is the time client/server in  
> astlinux. I assume Darrick's latest unofficial trunk builds use  
> OpenNTPd.
> 
> So, if you have built astlinux-trunk with ntp checked and openntp  
> unchecked in 'make menuconfig' you should be able to make this work,  
> I have not done it, but this interests me.
> 
> It would be good to 'characterize' your local clock by allowing NTP  
> to create it's own drift file while in contact with a NTP server  
> (takes 60 minutes), before you relocate your box.  If your final  
> destination has wild temperature swings then then this drift file may  
> not be of much value, but a good guess should not hurt.
> 
> Create the /mnt/kd/ntpd.conf as shown below, it should work.
> 
> Lonnie
> 
> $ cat /mnt/kd/ntpd.conf
> 
> # NTPd Config
> #
> # default restrictions
> restrict default noquery nopeer notrap nomodify
> # permit all access over the loopback interface
> restrict 127.0.0.1
> #
> # Local Clock undisciplined source
> # Must be stratum 3 or less for clients to sync
> server 127.127.1.0
> fudge  127.127.1.0 stratum 3
> #
> # Drift File
> driftfile /mnt/kd/ntpd.drift
> #
> 
> $ cat /mnt/kd/ntpd.drift
> 
> 149.907
> 
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