Lonnie,

I tried using the -4 and -6 parameter with both the old and new version 
of ntpd. Neither seem to be affected in any way. Even if I use -6 on the 
old (and working) version, it does not attempt to listen on ::. Which 
makes me think it wasn't compiled with ipv6 support. And the new (non 
working) version will always attempt to use :: even if I use -4 (which 
is the default in the init script) and crash saying it can't bind to it.

But to the last comment, I don't think ipv6 support in ntp is required 
for ipv6 dns queries. I was able to do those even when ntpd was not 
running and I didn't even know it. Or did you mean ipv6 ntp queries?

-James

On 06/26/2010 12:42 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
> James,
>
> If you have IPV6=yes, you could try hacking /etc/init.d/ntpd and add
>
>      if [ "$IPV6" != "yes" ]; then
>        NTPAF="-4"
> +    else
> +      NTPAF="-6"
>      fi
>
> OR, since ntpd is not running, try from the CLI for a test
>
> $ ntpd -6 -g -q -c /etc/ntpd.conf
>
> This will force IPv6 DNS lookups, may be worth a shot.
>
> Lonnie
>
>
> On Jun 26, 2010, at 9:59 AM, James Babiak wrote:
>
>    
>> Guy,
>>
>> Thanks! I think you may have found out exactly what the problem is. I do in 
>> fact have ipv6 enabled in the kernel, and my problem is identical to that.
>>
>> You know it's funny, because when I first saw that error message, I noticed 
>> the :: indicating ipv6, so thought maybe there was an issue with it not able 
>> to bind because of something else listening on that socket, but never 
>> thought about the fact that enabling ipv6 in and of itself could have caused 
>> the problem.
>>
>> I'm really curious why 4.2.4p7 works with ipv6 and 4.2.4p8 doesn't. Lonnie 
>> mentioned something about a 'HIGH' security fix being the difference, so I 
>> wonder if it's related...
>>
>> But that does kind of put me between a rock and a hard place. I want ntpd 
>> running obviously, but I also want to enable ipv6. Based on your link Guy, 
>> it seems like there is a way to compile the newer ntpd version without ipv6 
>> support. I guess I can try that, and maybe it should be done like that for 
>> the official release version if astlinux plans on officially supporting ipv6 
>> in the future.
>>
>> Though since :123 isn't reachable from the Wan, and I'm not as concerned 
>> about it on the Lan, I guess I can also just run the older version for the 
>> time being.
>>
>> I'll have to mess around with it later. The ipv6 module is in use, so I 
>> can't remove it with the system up, so I'll have to try removing it for the 
>> next reboot and see what happens. But I'm pretty convinced that it's the 
>> answer.
>>
>> Thanks!!!
>>
>> -James
>>
>> On 06/26/2010 10:16 AM, Guy Neale wrote:
>>      
>>> If you've been playing with IPV6 then this looks suspiciously similar.
>>>
>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg23669.html
>>>
>>> Guy
>>>
>>> On 26/06/2010, at 11:39 PM, Guy Neale wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> ntpd is running ok on my VIA EPIA MII-Series (C3 Processor)
>>>>
>>>> ps
>>>> 2516 root      1156 S    ntpd -4 -c /etc/ntpd.conf
>>>>
>>>> ntpd -?
>>>> ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.4p8
>>>>
>>>> Guy
>>>>
>>>>   On 26/06/2010, at 9:52 PM, Lonnie Abelbeck wrote:
>>>>
>>>>          
>>>>> James,
>>>>>
>>>>> This is weird, indeed...
>>>>>
>>>>> ntpd 4.2.4p7 ->  4.2.4p8 was just a (Severity: HIGH) security fix.
>>>>>
>>>>> I haven't seen any ntpd problems, but I don't have a 'via' box.
>>>>>
>>>>> Did you build this yourself, or from the repository?
>>>>>
>>>>> Michael mentioned to try 4.2.6p1, but so far the 4.2.6 series has an 
>>>>> issue for us, we first do (equivalent to the retired ntpdate)
>>>>> $ ntpd -g -q -c /etc/ntpd.conf
>>>>>
>>>>> to reset the clock in one big step, but in 4.2.6 (4.2.6p1 appears to be 
>>>>> the same per Michael's log)
>>>>>
>>>>> Jun 26 12:05:34 alix daemon.notice ntpd[2447]: ntpd: time slew +0.000000 s
>>>>>
>>>>> the clock is not immediately slew'ed as 4.2.4 does, which is a problem 
>>>>> for us.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In 0.7.2 try the new command
>>>>> $ show-union
>>>>>
>>>>> without arguments shows the contents of the ASTURW unionfs overlay (minus 
>>>>> the sounds and kd), the list should be fairly short, maybe some old edit 
>>>>> is causing a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lonnie
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 25, 2010, at 11:17 PM, James Babiak wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>            
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just noticed that since I upgraded to 0.7.2, that ntpd doesn't work.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I rebooted a phone, and saw that it wasn't able to pull the time. I 
>>>>>> checked on the box, and saw ntpd wasn't running. Originally I thought it 
>>>>>> just crashed (which has happened in the past), but I tried restarting 
>>>>>> the daemon and it error'd out. Even after a reboot (which has occurred 
>>>>>> three times) I still have the same problem:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.notice ntpd[2705]: ntpd 
>>>>>> [email protected] Thu May 13 00:20:20 UTC 2010 (1)
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.debug ntpd[2705]: 
>>>>>> signal_no_reset: signal 13 had flags 4000000
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.info ntpd[2705]: 
>>>>>> precision = 1.018 usec
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.debug ntpd[2705]: 
>>>>>> ntp_io: estimated max descriptors: 1024, initial socket boundary: 16
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.info ntpd[2705]: 
>>>>>> Listening on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages.0:Dec 31 19:01:31 voip daemon.err ntpd[2705]: unable 
>>>>>> to bind to wildcard socket address :: - another process may be running - 
>>>>>> EXITING
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It can neither query the server for the time to set itself, nor bind to 
>>>>>> the port to listen for queries itself.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At first I assumed, based on those logs, that something else was 
>>>>>> listening on port 123, and ntpd couldn't bind to it. But netstat showed 
>>>>>> that it was not the case. I know it was running perfectly fine before, 
>>>>>> though I can't say for sure that it never worked with 0.7.2, though I 
>>>>>> upgraded to it recently, and I don't remember for a fact if it ever ran 
>>>>>> since that point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Knowing that it did work prior to the upgrade, I copied over an older 
>>>>>> version of ntpd, and that works fine. The version bundled with 0.7.2 is 
>>>>>> 4.2.4p8, and the version that does work is 4.2.4p7.
>>>>>> With the older version:
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.notice ntpd[7286]: ntpd 
>>>>>> [email protected] Tue Apr 20 15:33:00 UTC 2010 (1)
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.debug ntpd[7286]: 
>>>>>> signal_no_reset: signal 13 had flags 4000000
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: precision 
>>>>>> = 1.018 usec
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.debug ntpd[7286]: ntp_io: 
>>>>>> estimated max descriptors: 1024, initial socket boundary: 16
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #0 wildcard, 0.0.0.0#123 Disabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #1 lo, 127.0.0.1#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #2 eth0, 174.58.33.164#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #3 eth1, 172.20.0.1#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #4 eth2.30, 172.30.0.1#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #5 tun0, 172.21.0.1#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: Listening 
>>>>>> on interface #6 tun2, 172.22.0.5#123 Enabled
>>>>>> /var/log/messages:Jun 25 21:47:07 voip daemon.info ntpd[7286]: kernel 
>>>>>> time sync status 0040
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Very weird... I've messed around with things trying to figure out why 
>>>>>> it's broken, but for the life of me can't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone else have any issues with ntpd 4.2.4p8 and 0.7.2 on a Via system?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -James
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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