I havent tried wireguard..  the GL boards look neat..  I have seen them 
before..   typically we chose the MT because of the POE and many of our 
customers want us to connect remote workers to their existing site firewalls..  
(often cisco ASA)..  so its easy to set up IPSEC , or L2TP clients (for those 
without static IP for the remote worker)..  I have a Mobile system running in 
my Mobile DEVLab that runs an MT with an ATT SIM card and GPS right in it..    
MT isnt the Best on the market but they have been pretty solid for us over the 
yeard..

the MT boards are mainly MIPS variants until you get into the bigger stuff 
which isnt cost effective compared to other X86 boxes (like APU boards) or even 
ARM like the raspberry PI. 

    On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 8:57:13 AM EDT, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> 
wrote:  
 
 I think the attraction of MikroTik is that it supports PoE, so you can plug in 
a hard phone with just a ethernet cable and no extra power supply required.  I 
wish there was a x86 architecture board that delivered PoE out on the ethernet 
ports (looks like MikroTik is not x86).  It would be a great platform for 
AstLinux.
David
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 8:37 AM Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
wrote:

Hey Christopher,

Have you tried the GL-iNet GL-MT300N-V2 (mango) Wireless Router/VPN, $20.49 USD.

https://www.gl-inet.com/products/gl-mt300n-v2/

It supports WireGuard.  An alternative to the MikroTik.

Lonnie



> On Jun 9, 2020, at 7:01 AM, The Cadillac Kid via Astlinux-users 
> <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> 
> what features are customers wanting that having a smart app is important? 
> Lync style integration? VPN has been my method for securing remote clients 
> for awhile..  many of them are logging into the their site anyway to work 
> remotely, so we integrate to their networks so the phone will just work.  
> 
> 
> most of my customers are wanting simple to use..  and they use other software 
> suites like google or sharepoint for their collaborations..   (then again 
> hotels are known to be simplistic and back a few years)..  
> 
> we have more requests for remote Hard-phones recently than I wouldve ever 
> imagined..  
> when they want a hardphone we send them a MikroTik POE router which they plug 
> into their home internet and creates a site-to-site tunnel on power-up
> 
> -Christopher
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, June 9, 2020, 4:55:32 AM EDT, Michael Knill 
> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Tom
> 
> Thanks for your response. For a desktop softphone, I don't think VPN is a 
> deal breaker, especially using Wireguard which starts up very quickly.
> Its more along the lines of a smartphone softphone application that is the 
> most difficult to implement. Push notifications are compulsory which wipes 
> out the option of using VPN.
> 
> Regards
> Michael Knill
> 
> On 9/6/20, 6:30 pm, "Tom Chadwin" <tom.chad...@nnpa.org.uk> wrote:
> 
>     > 3CX has a nice remote client and it looks like I'm going to lose at 
>least one customer to this product. Its easy to set up and appears to do it 
>more securely via a tunnelling protocol.
>     Bria is great but I just don't know how to secure it other than using a 
>VPN.
> 
>     Is VPN a deal-breaker? Aren't your clients using VPN for other purposes 
>anyway?
> 
>     Michael Keuter set us up perfectly. We specified zero software/licensing 
>costs, and I asked for PhonerLite. We've all been working with it since 
>lockdown. However, we had an existing non-Astlinux VPN network long-since 
>established. No reason it could not have been VPNs to Astlinux if we'd had no 
>other solution.
> 
>     Thanks
> 
>     Tom
> 
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