Thanks David. Yes I have looked at the Acrobits softphone recently but its 
still the same issue of how to register securely to your Astlinux box without 
using VPN.

Regards
Michael Knill

From: David Kerr <da...@kerr.net>
Reply to: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Date: Tuesday, 9 June 2020 at 9:18 pm
To: AstLinux List <astlinux-users@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Astlinux-users] Losing business because no soft phone apps

I use Acrobits softphone on my iPhone which works well for me (though I do not 
use it very much).  
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/acrobits-softphone/id314192799 and they will do a 
white-label for you to brand yourself.

And in the past I have used Zoiper on desktop, though I have not tried it in a 
long time.

David

On Tue, Jun 9, 2020 at 6:04 AM Michael Keuter 
<li...@mksolutions.info<mailto:li...@mksolutions.info>> wrote:


> Am 09.06.2020 um 12:00 schrieb Michael Knill 
> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>:
>
> Hi Michael
>
> Yes I have used Bria with Wireguard on iPhone and it works great while its in 
> the foreground.
> Push notifications are the only option to wake up the application from the 
> background which don't work if you are using VPN.
>
> Regards
> Michael Knill

But this behavior is dependend on the smartphones operating system, right?
Does the 3CX smartphone app behave different?

> On 9/6/20, 7:08 pm, "Michael Keuter" 
> <li...@mksolutions.info<mailto:li...@mksolutions.info>> wrote:
>
>
>
>> Am 09.06.2020 um 10:04 schrieb Michael Knill 
>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au<mailto:michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au>>:
>>
>> Hi Group
>>
>> Well although we are coping fine during COVID-19 and haven’t really lost any 
>> business yet, its now only a matter of time that we will.
>> I'm getting increased pressure from clients that they need simple remote 
>> working solutions for both desktop and smartphone as they are suspecting the 
>> new norm will not be everyone sitting in the office with a phone on their 
>> desk.
>>
>> In the light of this, I am struggling to build something for an standard 
>> Asterisk based system that's going to be moderately secure. Yes OpenVPN from 
>> Yealink phones is awesome but its not a mobile solution and people are sick 
>> of bringing phones into the office and back home.
>>
>> 3CX has a nice remote client and it looks like I'm going to lose at least 
>> one customer to this product. Its easy to set up and appears to do it more 
>> securely via a tunnelling protocol.
>> Bria is great but I just don't know how to secure it other than using a VPN.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas before I start using 3CX to keep business?
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Michael Knill
>
>    Hi Michael,
>
>    I just looked into the 3CX Windows softphone. You are right, they are 
> using a special proprietary tunnel protocol to their own SBC on port 5090.
>
>    https://www.3cx.com/docs/3cx-tunnel-session-border-controller/
>
>    https://www.3cx.com/docs/3cx-sbc-raspberry-pi/
>
>    But it seems everyone is using the same Tunnel password (no user 
> authentiation for the tunnel!). So if one user is hacked or lost its device, 
> then you would need to reconfigure the tunnel with a new password for all 
> users. I personally would not want this, but I don't know the exact details 
> of the tunnel.
>
>    You can do the same, but much safer with OpenVPN or WireGuard. It's a bit 
> more work to setup the client on each device. WireGuard works fine on mobile 
> phones.
>
>    Otherwise you just use SIP over TLS with SRTP without a VPN.
>
>    Michael
>
>    http://www.mksolutions.info
>
>
>
>
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