Yep I would say environmental for 1, maybe 2 sites but for 3 sites and all only 
recently I cant see how it could be.
No serial or long ethernet cables are connected.
Yes completely different power adaptors when I changed from APU2 -> Qotom.
Yes they are all DSL however ALL different modems and service types.

I'm thinking I will upgrade all Runnix versions at these sites and if still 
happening upgrade to 1.3.10 and if still happening then I have no idea what to 
do.

Regards
Michael Knill

On 16/9/20, 7:36 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:

    So a UPS may solve the issue as with Site 1 ?


    Do you have any serial cables connected ?

    Any long ethernet cables connected ?

    Is this with a variety of power adapters ?  ie. the APU2 -> Qotom switch 
did the power adapter change as well ?

    Sure sounds environmental to me.

    I've seen DC-to-DC UPSs for about $40 USD, but never tried one.
    https://protectli.com/product/uninterruptible-power-supply/

    Lonnie




    > On Sep 15, 2020, at 3:58 PM, Michael Knill 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
    > 
    > Ok I'm reviving this thread as I have now had my third site with this 
issue.
    > 
    > Symptom:
    > Astlinux completely locks up and requires a power reset. The log shows 
NOTHING in all cases.
    > 
    > Troubleshooting conducted:
    > Site 1 - The problem has not occurred since both a UPS AND Power Filter 
have been added
    > Site 2 - A power filter has been added and the problem has reoccurred. I 
have completely changed the system from an APU2 to Qotom and it did the same 
thing again
    > Site 3 - A known working APU2 was installed and it locked up yesterday.
    > 
    > I have checked mSATA cards and they were different across systems at 
these sites.
    > All systems are running 1.3.7.1 but I am running this at many other sites 
on the same hardware with no issues.
    > 
    > Power quality testing is extremely expensive and surely I cant be having 
a power issue at 3 sites!
    > The whole thing just doesn't make any sense and I don't know where to go 
from here.
    > Any ideas?
    > 
    > Regards
    > Michael Knill
    > 
    > On 22/4/20, 9:24 pm, "Michael Knill" <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> 
wrote:
    > 
    >    Looks like this problem was bad power. I was told by the local IT Guy 
that there are regular brownouts so I installed a UPS. No more problems since 
doing so.
    >    Seems like APU's don't like low voltage scenarios.
    > 
    >    Thanks for your help.
    > 
    >    Regards
    >    Michael Knill
    > 
    >    On 13/4/20, 1:05 pm, "Michael Knill" 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
    > 
    >        Yes could be but very unusual. I have never had this problem with 
any other APU.
    >        Maybe I will look for a good surge suppressor.
    > 
    >        Regards
    >        Michael Knill
    > 
    >        On 13/4/20, 12:47 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" 
<li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote:
    > 
    >            Interesting, maybe bad power (spikes, noise, etc.)
    > 
    >            Test with a UPS attached or good surge suppresser.
    > 
    >            Lonnie
    > 
    > 
    > 
    >> On Apr 12, 2020, at 9:17 PM, Michael Knill 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
    >> 
    >> Hi Lonnie
    >> 
    >> I have replaced the hardware already and it did EXACTLY the same thing ☹
    >> 
    >> Regards
    >> Michael Knill
    >> 
    >> On 13/4/20, 12:15 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> 
wrote:
    >> 
    >> 
    >> 
    >>> On Apr 12, 2020, at 7:03 PM, Michael Knill 
<michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote:
    >>> 
    >>> May not have anything to do with Astlinux but I have a site which 
completely locks up e.g. cannot even communicate using serial port.
    >>> On reboot its fine but there is nothing in the logs but the bootup 
messages.
    >>> So far I have replaced the hardware with new storage as well and power 
supply and it is still doing it.
    >>> 
    >>> It is currently running Astlinux 1.3.7.1 which has been running fine on 
another APU2 but its only been 8 days.
    >>> 
    >>> Any ideas what I can do next?
    >>> 
    >>> Regards
    >>> Michael Knill
    >> 
    >>   Sounds like an APU2 hardware issue.
    >> 
    >>   Maybe Pascal will give you a replacement.
    >> 
    >>   Lonnie
    >> 
    >> 
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