> Do you think I should remove PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD and try a BIOS upgrade to > see if it fixes the problem?
No ... first make sure setting PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD solves the issue with your DLS provider and your APU2s. After that, AstLinux 1.4.0 will be the solution without setting PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD . Ideally, you could test a 1.4-pre-release on an APU2 with the new DLS provider to make certain we have identified the issue. https://www.astlinux-project.org/dev.html Lonnie > On Sep 20, 2020, at 5:24 AM, Michael Knill > <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: > > Yes my BIOS is quite old: > 3999-IPCBuild-CM1 kd # dmesg | grep DMI > [ 0.000000] DMI: PC Engines APU, BIOS SageBios_PCEngines_APU-45 04/05/2014 > > Funny as it's a pretty new box. > > Do you think I should remove PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD and try a BIOS upgrade to > see if it fixes the problem? > I don't think I will for existing sites as a BIOS upgrade looks pretty hard > to do and I assume cannot be done remotely. > > Regards > Michael Knill > > On 20/9/20, 12:18 pm, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: > > Hi Michael, > > Ahhh, very good ... looks like we are on to something. > > Add it to one/some of your APU2s and let us know how it goes. > > As far as my Qotom Q190G4N, I initially had to set PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD > to keep it from locking-up with sustained high network traffic but then > switched the RAM SO-DIMM with another brand and did not need > PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD anymore. My comments probably got you started adding > PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD. > > This is a very obscure kernel bug, as such it never got back-ported to > Linux 3.16.x . > > For the APU2, the BIOS could play a role in how it initializes the NICs > and whether this kernel bug is triggered. > > Lonnie > > > >> On Sep 19, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Michael Knill >> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >> >> Awesome thanks Lonnie. >> Yes its all making sense now. I already have this directive in my template >> against the Qotom Q190G4U for some reason (should I have?) >> I have two Qotoms connected to the problem provider, one had this directive >> set already and has not failed and one did not (I forgot to change when I >> changed hardware) which fails. >> All my APU's don't have this set so all have problems with this provider. >> >> I'm thinking we have finally solved this issue. >> Thanks so much for your help >> >> Regards >> Michael Knill >> >> On 20/9/20, 9:29 am, "Lonnie Abelbeck" <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> wrote: >> >> I would try this first >> -- >> PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD="tso gso gro" >> -- >> and see if it fixes the problem. >> >> If by chance it does fix it, then it would not be needed in AstLinux 1.4.x. >> >> The PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD settings disable some of the "offload" features >> of the NICs in an effort to work around this (somewhat obscure) kernel bug. >> >> It all kind of makes sense that a particular provider is fragmenting >> packets in ways others do not, and hits this kernel bug. >> >> The PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD setting above is very "safe", only drawback is >> it slightly reduces network performance near the 1 Gbps level. >> >> BTW, if traffic shaping is enabled this PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD setting is >> already applied to external ethernet NIC(s). >> >> Lonnie >> >> >> >>> On Sep 19, 2020, at 6:09 PM, Michael Knill >>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>> >>> Awesome thanks Lonnie. >>> >>> I will give it a try although I have no idea what it does! >>> I assume I can remove this when I go to Astlinux 1.4? >>> >>> Regards >>> Michael Knill >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone so please excuse my brevity. >>> >>>> On 19 Sep 2020, at 11:56 pm, Lonnie Abelbeck <li...@lonnie.abelbeck.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi Michael, >>>> >>>> Great info! >>>> >>>> Try this in your user.conf, and reboot. >>>> -- >>>> PHYETH_DISABLE_OFFLOAD="tso gso gro" >>>> -- >>>> >>>> If my hunch is correct, this kernel fix added in 4.1.17 may be related ... >>>> >>>> net: preserve IP control block during GSO segmentation >>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux.git/commit/include/linux/skbuff.h?h=v4.1.17&id=abefd1b4087b9b5e83e7b4e7689f8b8e3cb2899c >>>> >>>> Lonnie >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Sep 18, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Michael Knill >>>>> <michael.kn...@ipcsolutions.com.au> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yay some progress on this problem. >>>>> >>>>> I had my 4th site lock up yesterday. It was a site I moved from one >>>>> location to another. There were no changes to the Astlinux box at all >>>>> other than PPPoE credentials but after a couple of hours it locked up. So >>>>> realistically the only change is the internet provider which is a new one >>>>> that I am trialling and is the same provider as two of the other sites >>>>> that are failing. >>>>> >>>>> As we are also using this provider in our home office, I set up another >>>>> box this morning and connected the serial port not expecting anything to >>>>> happen but it locked up and we captured it. Yay! 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