Thanks Dan for your SIP provider experiences.  Good info.

I would like to see some SIP provider partner with Vultr or Linode to offer a 
direct connection to their SIP/RTP endpoints, then AstLinux could be spun-up 
offering WireGuard access to the SIP/RTP.  Exposing SIP/RTP to the public would 
only be an option and could be firewalled by AstLinux.

But as usual, the devil is in the detail.

Lonnie


> On Aug 23, 2021, at 7:31 AM, Dan Ryson <d...@ryson.org> wrote:
> 
> I'm sure you've looked into this but when I hear of problems precisely at 15 
> minutes, failed SIP re-invites come to mind.  If so, it might be worth 
> exploring whether a SIP re-invite was sent but not acknowledged for some 
> reason.
> 
> I was glad to hear this question regarding providers.  Since it has never 
> come up, I presumed it was a taboo topic.  As a small-time hobbyist user, my 
> experience is limited in scope but many years have been spent on a quest for 
> an ideal AstLinux fit.  I've had varying degrees of success and many 
> disappointments.
> 
> As AstLinux is so feature-rich, it can largely stand on its own with minimal 
> help from providers.  As a result, I've gravitated to wholesale providers 
> that offer direct RTP from carriers, which typically reduces latency, 
> improves voice quality, and lowers cost.  Although reduced cost wasn't my 
> primary motivator, it does pay for a $5/month Linode AstLinux droplet that's 
> used as a static-IP, SIP-only, proxy server and failover backup.  [Note: With 
> many wholesale providers, you're on your own to handle calls during a PBX 
> outage.]
> 
> Here are a few candidates that you may wish to explore and test.  Use at your 
> own risk!
>       • Voxbeam:  Used seven years for US domestic termination.  I have 
> limited experience with their DIDs.  International termination available.  UK 
> owned and operated so may be particularly useful for calls to western Europe. 
>  E911 is provided only by their retail product "Localphone," which has a bit 
> more polish and may be more akin to Vitelity.  Offers both "direct" RTP and 
> via points of presence in US and Amsterdam.  Listed first because of your 
> specific requirements regarding UK calls.
>       • AnveoDirect:  Used nine years for US domestic DIDs but only recently 
> for US domestic termination.  Some international termination available.  It 
> is possible to select among multiple termination carriers or use their unique 
> least-cost-routing.  Does not support registration for DIDs but I use a 
> static IP.  Registration and E911 is provided only by their retail product 
> "Anveo," which I don't know much about.
>       • BulkVS:  Six months experience but my early experience with DIDs and 
> US domestic termination has been good.  At the very least, it's an intriguing 
> product worthy of review for US domestic-only use.  Offers E911, US domestic 
> termination only.  Direct RTP only.  Supports registration as well as IP 
> authentication.  Listed last only because it doesn't provide UK support.
> One factor to consider when selecting termination carriers within the US is 
> the FCC's recent push for STIR/SHAKEN compliance (more) that adds SIP header 
> signatures to facilitate CallerID authentication.  From a practical 
> standpoint in the short term, STIR/SHAKEN compliance for "little guys" like 
> me requires use of the same termination provider as the DID provider.
> 
> Dan
> 
> On Sun, Aug 22, 2021 at 05:52 PM, David Kerr <da...@kerr.net> wrote:
> Can anyone recommend a good SIP trunk/pstn provider?  I've been using 
> Vitelity for years and had been happy with them, but recently long distance 
> calls (well specifically calls from US to UK) have lost audio about 10-15 
> minutes into the call.  Immediately calling back sometimes works, or 
> sometimes it requires the other person to call me.
> 
> I'm wondering if I should try a different provider.  Any suggestions? 
> 
> Thanks
> David
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