There's something I realized about "creating and destroying" ephemeral event loops if you want to create temporary event loops over time in a synchronous application.
This wasn't clear to me at the beginning, but it's actually more natural to do the reverse and "destroy and create," and **at the end**: @contextmanager def run_in_loop(): try: yield finally: loop = asyncio.get_event_loop() loop.close() loop = asyncio.new_event_loop() asyncio.set_event_loop(loop) The reason is that at the beginning of an application, the event loop starts out not closed. So if you start out by creating a new loop at the beginning, you'll get a warning like the following: /usr/local/lib/python3.6/asyncio/base_events.py:509: ResourceWarning: unclosed event loop <_UnixSelectorEventLoop running=False closed=False debug=False> It's like the cycle is slightly out of phase. In contrast, if you create a new loop **at the end**, you're returning the application to the neutral state it was at the beginning, namely with a non-None loop that is neither running nor closed. I can think of three use cases for the context manager above: 1) for wrapping the "main" function of an application, 2) for calling async functions from a synchronous app (even from different threads), which is what I was originally asking about, and 3) as part of a decorator around individual unit tests to guarantee loop isolation. This seems like a really simple thing, but I haven't seen the pattern above written down anywhere (e.g. in past discussions of asyncio.run()). --Chris On Mon, Jul 10, 2017 at 7:46 AM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: > OK, then as long as close the connection and the loop properly it shouldn't > be a problem, even multi-threaded. (You basically lose all advantage of > async, but it seems you're fine with that.) > > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 9:07 PM, Chris Jerdonek <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Guido van Rossum <gu...@python.org> wrote: >> > But the big question is, what is that library doing for you? In the >> > abstract >> > it is hard to give you a good answer. What library is it? What calls are >> > you >> > making? >> >> It's the websockets library: https://github.com/aaugustin/websockets >> >> All I really need to do is occasionally connect briefly to a websocket >> server as a client from a synchronous app. >> >> Since I'm already using the library on the server-side, I thought I'd >> save myself the trouble of having to use two libraries and just use >> the same library on the client side as well. >> >> --Chris >> >> >> >> >> > >> > On Sun, Jul 9, 2017 at 8:48 PM, Chris Jerdonek >> > <chris.jerdo...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I have a two-part question. >> >> >> >> If my application is single-threaded and synchronous (e.g. a web app >> >> using Gunicorn with sync workers [1]), and occasionally I need to call >> >> functions in a library that requires an event loop, is there any >> >> downside to creating and closing the loop on-the-fly only when I call >> >> the function? In other words, is creating and destroying loops cheap? >> >> >> >> Second, if I were to switch to a multi-threaded model (e.g. Gunicorn >> >> with async workers), is my only option to start the loop at the >> >> beginning of the process, and use loop.call_soon_threadsafe()? Or can >> >> I do what I was asking about above and create and close loops >> >> on-the-fly in different threads? Is either approach much more >> >> efficient than the other? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> --Chris >> >> >> >> [1] http://docs.gunicorn.org/en/latest/design.html#sync-workers >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Async-sig mailing list >> >> Async-sig@python.org >> >> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/async-sig >> >> Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/ >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) > > > > > -- > --Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido) _______________________________________________ Async-sig mailing list Async-sig@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/async-sig Code of Conduct: https://www.python.org/psf/codeofconduct/