Hi,

We made retries configurable in our mac80211+ath9k system, and we ended with 3 
counts:
1) short retry count, defaults to 4
2) long retrys count, defauts to 7
3) software retry count, defaults to 30
This last one is used separately for each frame in an aggregated frame, since 
they can be separately acknowledged.

Regards,
Jean-Pierre

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : linux-wireless-ow...@vger.kernel.org 
> [mailto:linux-wireless-ow...@vger.kernel.org] De la part de
> Ben Greear
> Envoyé : mardi 17 juillet 2018 17:08
> À : SEDE; Benjamin Beichler; ath10k; linux-wirel...@vger.kernel.org
> Objet : Re: Setting tx retry count in ath10k
> 
> 
> 
> On 07/17/2018 12:56 AM, SEDE wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > In the standard, 7 is the default for the short retry count, 4 is well the 
> > default for long retry
> count.
> >
> > In ath10k, there is also non_agg_sw_retry_th to control this, will this 
> > still be used?
> > Or what is the difference with rc_num_retries?
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Sébastien.
> 
> The ath10k firmware has no idea of long vs short retries, so I just used the
> long setting.
> 
> I will investigate that non_agg_sw_retry_th as well, and I did notice my 
> wave-1
> firmware (at least) uses 15 retries for self-generated frames.  But, in my 
> case,
> those self-gen frames are not much used anyway since I disable firmware 
> keep-alive.
> 
> And, I need to see how the mac80211 stack handles its own retries when working
> with ath10k.
> 
> Thanks,
> Ben
> 
> >
> >
> > On 2018-07-17 09:39, Benjamin Beichler wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Am 17.07.2018 um 02:37 schrieb Ben Greear:
> >>> I spent a bit of time looking into setting the tx retry count in
> >>> ath10k (wave-1 firmware).  The firmware has support for setting this as
> >>> a vdev parameter, and it defaults to '2', at least in my wave-1 firmware.
> >>>
> >>> I enabled propagating the setting from mac80211, ie:
> >>> iw phy wiphy0 set retry short 2 long 2
> >>>
> >>> And while debugging this, I noticed that mac80211 has a default of
> >>> 4, but the ath10k firmware has a default of 2.  Now, I am not sure
> >>> if I should enable setting the retry count since it will change
> >>> the behaviour even if users don't set anything.
> >>>
> >> Maybe I'm wrong, but I have in mind, that 7 retries is the default
> >> setting of mac80211. Although 2 or even 4 seems to be pretty low for the
> >> overall retry count, so maybe the values are somehow changed in the
> >> firmware? From our experiments we know (at least for 802.11n) you need
> >> for normal operation a retry count of something between 5 - 9, but
> >> sometimes also 12 or 15 is beneficial.
> >>
> >> We use for our experimental setup mainly ath9k cards and rt28xx nics,
> >> and with them you need definitely more retries.
> >>
> >> Nonetheless, I don't think the change from 2 to 4 does really affect the
> >> behavior in a negative way (if it works as expected).
> >>
> >>> Any opinions on this?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >
> 
> --
> Ben Greear <gree...@candelatech.com>
> Candela Technologies Inc  http://www.candelatech.com
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