Eric Scheid wrote:

Is order significance of control elements the only argument we have left
in favor of pub:control?

as above: order is more complex than obvious

also: elegance - all pub:control stuff in one handy box, vs warting them all
with an attribute @pub:control="true"

This begs the question about whether or not control metadata *needs* to be distinguishable from other metadata. My thinking on this has evolved over the past couple of months. Initially I thought it was obvious, of course control metadata should be handled differently than other types of metadata. Not, however, I'm not so sure. So long as implementations are not obligated to spit all of the metadata for an entry back out in it's public feed, does it really matter if pub controls are distinctly flagged as pub controls?

also: if we do decide on some basic expectation of control information only
be available via the APP it's a whole bunch easier to just say "everything
inside this wrapper".

Why could this not be left up to the definitions of each individual control extension? For instance, in my blog controls spec, I could easily state that a particular control element should not be exposed in the publicly available version of the entry then leave it up to the implementation to decide. The only variable is with implementations that don't understand the control element which would be under no obligation to regurgitate unknown metadata elements back out into their public feeds. Some leakage could occur in those cases but is it severe enough that we have to strictly regulate it?

- James

- James

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